Friday, February 5, 2010

What's the difference between killing dogs and deer hunting?

We all have heard about Micheal Vick, and pleaing guilty to dogfighting charges. My question is if killing dogs is inhumane then why are laws not the same for deer hunting? I have seen in houses people hanging the heads of deers that they have killed. Is that not inhumane, or is killing deers perfectly fine, but killing dogs is inhumane and illegal?What's the difference between killing dogs and deer hunting?
Because deer tastes good and I grew up eating it. Dogs, I don't know. Dogs aren't jumping in front of my car in the morning . Everyone is against hunting. Well do you all eat steak, fish, chicken? Let me guess all of you who said hunting is wrong are pure vegetarian? Right. How do you think that hamburger you've eaten got on that bun. Someone killed an animal to provide it for you. As man takes up their habitat I guess you buncha wussy's think its better to allow them to starve and freeze to death. Oh yeah they can always get hit by cars and die a slow agonizing death if they aren't lucky enough to get hit by a truck. Next time you go to the grocery store think about that meat your buying. I'll bet the Great Plastic Wrap Fairy had nothing to do with it.What's the difference between killing dogs and deer hunting?
yeah youre right. but we usually dont hear of people torturing deer or electrifying them. and i have never heard of underground deer fighting. i dont like deer hunting either, but i guess to other people, deer are wild animals, and dogs are tame and can be trained and be more usefull as seeing eye dogs, or the dogs that sniff out drugs, or the ones that rescue people in avalanches, and so on.
Well, it all depends on the reasons. Killing dogs has no purpose except to amuse yourself by causing harm to other. Hunting on the other part is completely different. When most people hunt, even if they do it for sport, they take the deer, quail, etc. and use it for food. This cuts down their bills, saving everyone money, plus, it helps control the deer population to a point in which the animals do not become overcrowded and move into our territory.
Deer hunting is a regulated way of thinning out herds so that overpopulation doesn't occur, and they die of disease or starvation. Not at all the same as breeding dogs to fight to the death, and killing them by strangulation, electrocution and drowning if they aren't good enough. Get a brain!
If you're so against deer hunting, how do you feel about fishing? Ever see a Marlin or a Shark mounted on a wall? Have you ever had any of the seafood specials at your favorite restaurant? Do you (or your dog) or anyone you know take omega-3 fish oil as a dietary suppliment?





I believe that anybody that equates hunting and fishing to dog fighting is comparing apples to oranges.
Ummmmmm........killing dogs is illegal and HUNTING deer isn't. Anyway I guess you answered your question yourself. You did say killing deer is perfectly fine and killing dogs is illegal.
Mind you, I'm not a big hunting fan. But I do see the difference.





The goal of deer hunting to kill a deer in one shot - fast death - and to use the deer for meat. Some people mount trophy heads, which is weird to me, but the rest of the deer is used for food. Government condones hunting because deer populations are extremely high, mainly because territory for their natural predators, such as wolves and mountain lions has been destroyed. Without some legalized hunting to control population, many deer would starve every year. It is a manmade problem with a manmade solution.





Dog fighting has no purpose except for humans betting on two animals ripping each other to shreds until one or both dies from its wounds, often slowly and painfully.





Anyone who can't see the difference is completely clueless.
Well, I am not in favor of either one. Last year I held a baby deer, maybe a day or 2 old. I love to watch the deer grazing in a nearby field, or watch a mama deer with a little fawn. Deer are plentiful where we live. I hate to hear the sounds of gunshots during hunting season. Still, most people hunt deer for the meat. I don't approve of it, but I know people who are poor and use deer meat to stretch their food budget. It is not quite the same as killing a dog. Dogs are raised to be a companion, not to be slaughtered for no other reason that for ';sport';.
well. people eat deers.. but not dogs..i guess thats why
It has nothing to do with killing a dog or a deer. There are actually instances when you may have to kill a dog. We had to kill one that attacked my brother. He's still missing part of his ear. And killing deer is a different matter all together. If you don't control their populace, most of them will end up starving anyway. Or they'll end up getting hit by cars.





Michael Vick is guilty, not of killing, but of torturing animals. The kind of things that were done to those dogs were to force them to fight all the humanity of Jeffrey Dommer. That's the difference between the two.
Dogfighting = throwing two dogs together and making them fight, usually until one dies, usually in a long, painful manner. The dog that wins often dies too. If not of its wounds then of secondary infection later. This is done for no reason other than the amusement of human beings. Anyone can see why this is cruel.


Killing of dogs through lethal injection is generally considered humane, and is accepted practice at shelters that are overburdened with unwanted dogs and cats due to the vast amount of ignorance in our society.





Deer hunting is much more like euthanization than like fighting. As an avid deer hunter myself, I can tell you that the VAST majority of hunters kill deer for food, and ALL deer hunters try their very best to kill the deer quickly with a solid heart shot. The deer is dead in seconds, before it even knows what happened. When they do occasionally run away first, they are tracked as quickly as possible and shot again if they do not bleed to death in a few minutes before they are found.


It is done for food, and, yes for sport, but those who kill for sport are actually the most humane according to you. They will often let many, MANY deer pass by them until one year they get the perfect shot on that big buck. They will go YEARS without killing anything because it wasn't big enough. They will see a nice buck, and let him go so that next year, he'll be even bigger. We don't just kill anything that crosses our paths and then stick its head on the wall. And even those who hunt for sport will still eat the meat of the deer they took, or will donate it Hunters for the Hungry to feed homeless people.





Yes, there is an overpopulation of deer and yes, it is caused IN PART by the removal of natural predators. If we did not hunt deer, thousands upon thousands upon thousands of deer would die slow deaths of disease, and thousands upon thousands more would be killed in car accidents. The next time you drive down a country road (or even the interstate!) at night and DON'T hit a deer and wreck your car and maybe die yourself, thank the hunters in your area who brave 20 degree or colder weather sitting motionless in the woods for many, many days every year. Deer hunting is more cruel to the hunters than it is to the deer!!





And I certainly hope you're a vegan with views like that, because it's not like the mass-production of dead cows, chickens, pigs, and fish is any less ';cruel.'; Probably less humane than deer hunting in most respects. Killing one adult deer each year fills my freezer enough so that I don't have to buy beef at all. (And by the way to the people worried about hunters killing Bambi, the year's fawns are usually full grown by hunting season, and does do not become pregnant until near the end of hunting season.)





Next time do a little research before you start telling people what they do is cruel and inhumane.
First of all, dogs are domesticated animals while deer are wild life. I personally couldn't kill a deer either but a lot of people that do, do so for food. We (hopefully) don't eat dog meat. Also, it was the manner in which Michael Vick is suppose to have killed these dogs. Drowning and hanging and electrocution. Totally inhumane. He is scum IMHO.
Looking for excuses on why the dog fighting should be justified? There is none...!





The killing deer? Although it is looked upon as a sport it is first regulated and the ';idea'; is that the killing of these deer is a way of controlling the population of the deer...which believe it or not could be a very bad thing if not done, not just to humans but to the entire wildlife.


The shooting of the deer is quite a bit quicker than a ';fight'; that could last for a very long time and the dog lay and suffer slowly...


the deer meat is also utilized for feeding...not simply wasted and thrown in the trash somewhere or simply buried so no one can find it...there is a HUGE difference between the ';sport'; of deer hunting and the ';sport of dog fighting';!





Instead of the deer hunting perhaps a better example would have been why have the boxing matches that many humans love so much? But then again...At least in the boxing matches the human has a choice to do it or not to do it...the dog was never given a choice...just the training!
there is a huge difference between the two. one, dogs r a domestic animal who love people and want to please their owners. deer r a wild animals who hate people and stay away from them. and when ur hunting deer and u kill one ur actually helping the environment. there r so many deer in the environment that they r eating up all the resources. when u kill them u r helping cut down the population. and help the environment flourish when u kill a dog by fighting them all ur doing is lining ur pockets with cash
And the last time you ate dog was... when?





And the torture of deer in the process of hunting is likely also grounds for animal abuse charges, by the way. Fighting dogs to death - not to mention electrocution and hanging - is torture.





People who get off on the pain of others - animal OR human - are sick. And dogfighting is nothing but people getting off on the pain of the losing dog.
In America, deer hunting is rationalized by the fact that the meat will be used (venison is a rising choice of meat), the hide will be used for clothing and the bones will be used for either artifacts or souvenirs. Also deer are a wild species. They have not been domesticated by humans and so we do not have a special bond with the species, except for the movie Bambi.


Also hunting deer is either by shooting with bullets or arrows in either the neck or head, pretty much killing it instantly. No pain.


As for dogs, they have been domesticated by civilization for over 10,000 years. We have found the benefit of keeping them close and revering them as companions. Also in America, most people will cringe at the idea of either eating dog meat or sticking a dog head on a wall. Since so many people nowadays see dogs as a four-legged off-spring, it would be like sticking a child's head over the mantle.


What Michael Vick was doing was essentially killing the dogs slowly, by forcing them to fight each other. The weaker dogs were then either strangled, clubbed or shot in the head. But they have been tortured.


This is why killing dogs is much more serious than killing deer.
yes it is wrong to deer hunt. but lots of animals would become extinct. deer will become over populated quickly if we don't hunt them, because no animal eats deer besides the occasional wolf. deer would eat all the grass, then there would be no food left for them, and they would be wiped out, and all the other animals who eat grass would be wiped out, and the animals who eat those animals would die, and so on. so by hunting we are keeping to population down. there is also laws that say you can only hunt in the season, and you have ti have a license. also you can't shoot the does unless you have a special license. you can't shoot a doe if it has a baby no exceptions! so it is for the best.
dogs are loyal friends that most people do not eat. We do eat deer.
Dog fighting is where they train their brains to fight and torture other dogs. Deer are just short and are not tortured. They are both inhumane but dogfighting this worse.
If you have to ask this question, please don't get a dog.
Well I think both are morally wrong and should be illegal.





But dog fighting is horrendous. And he didn't JUST kill the dog with a quick bullet. He tortured them, drowned them, hanged them, and should go to jail for a very long time.
I agree with you. They say that deer are overpopulated but if hunters wouldn't have killed off on their natural predators we wouldn't have that problem would we??? I personally don't see how people can kill any animal. And for those of you who are wondering, I don't eat meat and wear fur coats.


I just don't understand the killing of any animal and I really don't understand how people can look an animal in the eye and shoot it. It's beyond me???





I do believe that deer hunters come back as deer in their next life though.
I totally agree with what you are saying about deer hunting. I think it is inhumane because they are not a danger to us. I think the only animals that should be hunted are the ones that pose a true danger. I think society thinks killing dogs is inhumane because they are domesticated pets and that it's okay to hunt deer because they are animals in the wild. I don't think it should be that way because these pit bull dogs are way dangerous and deer are not.
I don't really see a difference. Both are wrong. Why should someone put an animal through so much torture?? I think both should be illegal!
Honey :) Because the pricks of your kind, I got my ';account suspended'; :)


Anyway, ..............Get bent!!!!!
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