Friday, February 12, 2010

How can I get my wife to tolerate my deer hunting?

She knew I was an avid hunter before we got married, and she has knowingly eaten and even cooked deer meat. For some reason, now, my hunting is a problem. I've tried all the logical arguments, but she still gets upset when I go hunting...Help!How can I get my wife to tolerate my deer hunting?
Point out that hunting is actually more humane in a lot of ways. Cattle are bred just for food...they are shot up with hormones and antibiotics, castrated, branded, and then led to an ';assembly line'; style slaughter where they probably see what happens to the cow in front of them. Even worse with chickens, they mostly grow up crammed into pens.





When you go hunting, the deer lives its happy free deer life going where it wants, doing what it wants, and eating what it wants...until it's shot, and if you're a good shot he doesn't even see it coming. To me that sounds a lot more humane. Personally I'd rather be blindsided by a hunter than killed in an assembly line at a slaughterhouse. Bring THAT up the next time she eats beef or chicken.How can I get my wife to tolerate my deer hunting?
well I don't know,Deer hunting saves her grocery money on meat. You are not at the bars but in the woods having a good time getting her some dinner.It is not like it is year around.You are going to have to just let her know that you enjoy it and are going to go Hunting.I am seriously thinking of getting my license and going next year.My Oldest Son Hunts and Now my Youngest wants to go.
Remember you can disagree without being disagreeable.* You cannot reason with an unreasonable woman.* She is just trying to manipulate you.* It was a huge part of your life before you met her, just keep it that way or cave in to the criticism, condemning and complaining.* Your choice, not hers.* The only way for you to stop Hunting is because you want to stop Hunting, not because Anyone, Anywhere, at Anytime wants you to stop Hunting.* That is something I would never compromise for Anyone, Anywhere, at Anytime.* { Wife included}*
Make sure she doesn't get the notion that hunting is your 'first love' and that she comes second. Although, this time of year that's hard to do! I'll bet she's feeling like she's taken a back burner to your real passion.





Be careful with the ';food on the table'; arguments.....I know some guys that probably hunt that efficiently, but for most of us, it's an expensive hobby. Know the numbers before you attempt to go down what may be a rabbit hole, she does!





My gun club has a women's program, run by the lady who owns a local gun shop with her husband, and it's been a blessing to some of my friends whose wives were anti's. See if there's something like that near you. My wife and the gun shop owner are now good friends and the wife routinely drags women she knows to take up self-defense pistol classes, clay soprts and even hunting classes.





Also, make your hunting an activity that helps your community. Many homeless shelters or food banks will take the meat, and some processors will donate the processing if the meat's going to feed the hungry in the community.





Those of us who are fit, active and blessed enough to be able to spend the time, energy and money to go hunting also have an obligation to share in the bounty we harvest.





If you wife is religious, or just civic-minded, involve her in the sharing of what you harvest. It could be as simple as helping you find needy families in your town that could use a roast on the table or some ground meat in the freezer.





Trust me, what you give is repaid to you many times, and it can change both of yours perception of hunting from a selfish pursuit to a noble cause.
The question is, why do you tolerate a woman who tries to manipulate you like that? Give in and what will it get you? You'll have lost something you enjoy and she'll just start looking for something else to take away from you to make you as miserable as she is.
Take her with you. I honestly used to fuss at my husband for hunting too. I wanted the time that he spent on hunting spent with me instead. Little did I realize that it is almost like an addiction that just keeps drawing you back to those woods. My husband talked me into going with him...no strings attached. It was such a rush. Now he gets to go hunting %26amp; we spend time together. If I have my children %26amp; am unable to go, I, at least, UNDERSTAND him %26amp; his desire to go since I've experienced it firsthand. Good luck. (If that doesn't work, remind her about the time limits / seasons. You normally can only go for so long %26amp; then, unfortunately, it is over. Then, you'll be ALL HER';S!! That is, of course, unless it's good fishing time then. LOL) If all of that doesn't work, just divorce her....hunting isn't a hobby, but a way of life. I'm only kidding!!!
The other girl had it; she just wants you to spend time with her instead of going hunting. She's jealous that you get excited about hunting but not about her.





As long as you're not having sex with deer, she has nothing to worry about.
Take her with you next time.


Make her help gut-out and haul the carcass she'll be 'hooked' on the hunt.


One downside item: You'll have to buy an additional deer rifle for future hunts.
take her.
Let me see if i got this right. She knew upfront before you married her that you are a hunter, and now all of a sudden she has a problem with it? She's using your hunting as an excuse for her behaviour, there's an underlying cause which for some reason she has decided to hide from you. Get into marriage counselling as soon as you can, if she won't be open and honest with you, there's a real need for intervention. If in fact your hunting is the reral cause of her behaviour, you need to gently remind her that she was well aware of the fact that you are a hunter, and that she entered the marriage with full disclosure of this fact without a complaint about it. It's not your problem, it's her problem that she is trying to make yours. DO NOT accept her issues as your own problem! It's not fair to you obviously, and it's not fair to her either by allowing her to give you the responsibility for her own actions and decisions. She has to be made aware of this before it escalates into something much more than it is now. It was her that changed her mind about your hunting, YOU have done nothing wrong here, she was ok with it before, now suddenly she's not ok. She needs to be honest with you about this in order for any kind of resolution to occur.
She'll either get over it or not! It really depends on why she doesn't want you to go!
divorce!
If she doesn't hunt, make sure that you spend as much time with her doing whatever is as important to her as hunting is to you. Be sincere!!! This is the voice of experience talking.
How often do you go? Sure hunting season is short and the year is long. But if you are going hunting 2 days a week during the season, you aren't spending much time with her. If you don't go that often than there might be some other problem. When I was married the first few years she missed me when I was gone but never complained. The last few years of our marriage she begged me to go hunting as often as possible. Then she divorced me. So if she is telling you she doesn't like it....there might be something else bothering her. Maybe she needs a hobby of her own.
tell her to beat it or shut up.just because she does not like it doesnt give her the right to moan about it.
let her get mad. you'll be hunting, she'll be sittin home in a bad mood. Big Deal.
I am a woman hunter and I used to be just like your wife. I started going hunting with my husband and now I hunt more than he does. I work for a hunting magazine for women and there are many women on our site that are learning about hunting. It is easier and better for a women to accept hunting when she has an understanding of the sport. Encourage her to visit our site (www.thewomanhunter.com). There are lots of articles that women hunters have written (including myself) about hunting. Tell her to read ';Posted: All Hunters Wanted';. For that matter, go to the site yourself and print it off for her to read. I wrote this article and it is how I got involved in hunting. Invite her to go with you, but do not force the issue. I think once she meets other women that hunt and participates in an organization that educates and encourages women hunters, her opinion will change. I just returned from a mule deer hunt in Texas with my husband and I got a bigger one than he did. I also went to Michigan on a pheasant hunt this year without my husband and have a hunt planned every month next year, only one of which will be with my husband. Don't give up because it is not a lost cause. Good Luck!!
Take her with you. Give her a gray sweatshirt and gray pants. That should do the trick.
I, had a similar problem with my first 2 wives. even after jumping through all the hoops, plus counseling, they still had a problem.


The lady that i am now married to, doesn't hunt, but doesn't mind if i do.


all i can say, is GOOD LUCK
take her with you, so she can get a taste of what its like to capture a pawn in it's own place.
get a new wife its easier
You my friend are screwed, plain and simple. I lost two good hunting buddys to the exact same phenomena. I'm now hunting pheasants with my beagle because one of them was the guy with the bird dogs and we wanted to get into rabbit hunting more so instead of getting another lab, I got a beagle, sigh.... He no longer has the labs, either!





I think it was Wilson on Tool Time that said it best ';Men marry women expecting them to remain the same, women marry men expecting them to change';





One thing you could try is to constantly be around her every freakin minute until she is so sick of seeing you that she will be glad to get a weekend alone. Unless there is some unknown underlying reason, that is causing her to resent the time you spend hunting, just give it up, you are toast. Avoid the money saving argument, it just doesn't even come close. The amount of money I spend hunting I could fill our freezer a couple of times over with beef and fowl.





My wife is pretty reasonable about it, she doesn't mind the occasional long weekend with my buddies hunting, especially if I take my sons with us, but she lets me know really quick when I am abusing it! The only time she really minded a lot is when I would get back from a long overseas tour.





Got anything good to sell??
Get her a deer costume for X-Mas. She will change her mind.
I can feel for your wife.....I am a newly wed and I have only been married for about 3 months........and my husband is a big time hunter......I hate it ....at first I thought it was cool he had something he really like to do.....even if I didn't understand it.......but when I moved in with him after we got married .......I noticed he was out allot :hunting and now this is the second time he leaves me for the week to go hunting..........and I feel soo unimportant to him.....considering I am living in a new town and am still trying to adjust.......he left me to go hunting!!!!!! Priority ....your wife should come first.....your wife just loves u and wants you around....be happy . When she rather have u go , then Worry...
stop hunting then - it's so cruel!


i can't believe all of these answers - everyone seems to think it's perfectly ok to go out killing animals.
You can't make her tolerate it .... she believes its wrong ...its her choice to think that

What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?

I live in suburban CA, and I've never seen any roadkill bigger than coyotes.


Are you supposed to leave it where it is? What should one expect to hear if you are pulled over afterward, and will you be fined or brought in for questioning if the damage to (and blood on) your car looks suspicious?What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
If the animal is big enough, you won't be going anywhere.





Notify the police so they can have someone remove the animal, especially if it is still in the road. It's a road hazard that needs removal. If you can, without creating an additional hazard for yourself, place some kind of advanced warning for traffic (flares, triangles or anything you may have). If you can't move your car, you don't want other drivers doing further damage to your car.





You'll need a police report to have the insurance company pay for the damage repair.What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
I got hit by a deer last April, and I did not report it. This deer came running full-blast out of nowhere and ran head-first into my fender, crumpling it and barfing all over it. Then he got up and ran off.





In NJ if you call a cop, he will give you a ticket. I'd get a ticket for ';interfering with the wildlife right-of-way';. It was the same township that gave one of my friends a ticket for driving during a bright sunny day with a daytime running headlight burnt out...the local Stillwater township cop said the ';car was being run in an unmaintained and unsafe condition';, and the local judge upheld it and my friend was fined $120 (he is 40+ years old, so he's not a teenager). Luckily he researched the statute, and he reminded the judge that the maximum fine allowed for the violation is $40.





Anyway, regarding my deer hit, I simply reported it to the insurance company the next day. They scheduled an estimator to come out, judge the damage, make sure it was confirmed, then the insurance co. sent me a check for the repairs. I believe deer damage is covered under comprehensive, not collision, on my insurance...your mileage may vary.





Just a personal opinion, but I think I got a much more sizeable check because I worked with the estimator and didn't give him a hard time, I also accommodated his early-morning schedule, and that was back when I was working night shift.
I know that in Medera County, you should call the local Animal Control or street department to pick it up\euthanize it if need be- just to be kind. You dont want to leave a dead animal in the road as a hazard to other motorists, nor do you want to leave an injured animal suffer. Just use common sense and be safe! And dont forget to call nyour insurance company to report it for coverage!
I grew up in Wisconsin where most everyone I knew (except me) hit a deer. My dad hit 2 in his Suburban. The only thing I knew that if you want the insurance to pay you need a report so it may be in your interest to have an officer come. Also if the animal is wounded, it becomes an ethical issue to have the animal put out of it's misery. Can't say about the law in CA though. Sorry
Well you should have stop and called the police to report it because if the Animal is hurt then can destroy it. But since you didn't stop after hitting the animal it could be consider a hit and run. Which alone is huge problem where you could lose your license.
i live in cali too and if we ever hit a deer we have to eat it because its really tasty and if you hit one you call me ok my number is 911 9119

What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?

She is concerned about to much recoil. I have been told that a 25'06 would be a good caliber as far as recoil is concerned. My only concern is that she will have to make a perfect shot every time in order to have a clean kill. I'm thinking a 270, but would that be to much recoil?What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?
Recoil in ft lbs





Caliber - rifle Wt - recoil in ft lbs


30-30 - 7.5 - 10.6


.308 - 7.5 - 15.8


.270 - 8.0 - 17.0


30-06 - 8.0 - 20.3


300Wby Mag - 9.25 - 24.6





This will give you some idea - NO it's not going to be exact for every bullet weight/velocity/etc





Ways to reduce felt recoil - A good b*** pad, increase the weight of the rifle and Mag-Na-Port it. %26gt;I have a 300Wby, the felt recoil is actually less than a .308





If most of your hunting will be under 150yds I would give strong consideration to a Marlin 336 in 30-30





If you are going to be hunting on a lot of flat open ground, see how a .308 Remington 700 or Ruger 77 fits her.





You can always use a .22 LR for practice.What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?
Your Two(2)* best choices for your purpose is 30-30 or 30-06.* They are well known for harvesting more Deer than any other caliber.* Recoil is manageable.* I prefer the 30-06 because it is more versatile %26amp; has a greater variety of bullet weights to choose from. When you have a 30-06 you really don't need to buy another caliber.*
.243 or .270 would be ideal if you are buying a new rifle.





Nothing wrong with a .30-30 either, if your shots are typically in the 100 yard and under range.





.308 reduced recoil loads.....you should consider that as well. I shot some recently and was impressed at my groups at 100. I'd like to do some more distance with them next, but consider me a believer in them on first impressions.
I would consider the following: .243 Win, .260 Remington or the 6.5 X55 Swede, or the .257 Roberts or 7mm x 57 Mauser round. The 7mm-08 is a great round and the .308 may be something she can handle. If hunting distances are not over 150 yards, also consider the venerable .30-30 Winchester. It has definitely taken more deer over the last 100 years than any other round.





These all are great calibers for a man too!!
With calibers like the 243 and 2506, she will have to make a perfect shot everytime or else they're going to go a long way --- especially with shouldershots because you don't know if the bullet is going to hold up.





I'd much rather use a 308 (150) or 30-30 (170-180) if she can handle it. I wouldn't go with a 3006 because that is too much for a lot of guys. Recoil is more of a mental thing than a psyical thing for reasonable calibers. If she's going to flinch with a 308, she's going to do so with a 243 as well.





Might as well go for the best of the bunch - 308
Tyler, the .25-06 is probably the ideal deer rifle. I've killed Whitetail deer with both and believe me, they just drop. I'll bet the deer couldn't tell which caliber hit them.





I bought my wife a .270 Weatherby Vanguard (.270 Win. caliber) in the early Seventies. She still has it and she has no trouble with the recoil so long as she uses the 130 grain bullets. I actually prefer the .25-06 Remingto for deer hunting and I'm not recoil shy (I regularly shoot a .458 Winchester magnum). Go figure!





Best.





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The only thing availabe in centerfire with little to no recoil is the .223 Remington, but this is too light for deer. I would not go with anything less than a .270. She will just have to get accustomed to the recoil.
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I'm a .270 fanatic. I've taken everything from coyote, to antelope, to mule deer, to elk, to blackbear with them. My favorite rifle is a model 70 winchester featherweight, with a muzzlebrake on it, I glass bedded the barrel, had a trigger job done and would not trade it for any rifle in any calibur. I've hunted with a lot of different rifles and caliburs but that is my choice for hunting in america. If your worried about recoil, just do like I did and have a muzzle brake installed. It's loud, but recoils like a .22 magnum That's what I have my wife and 16 year old daughter hunting with too. But, I started them both out on the .257 roberts. They both just fell in love with the accuracy, and lack of recoil on my rifel, so I had to get them each one just like it. Other good choices are the 7mm08 and the 25-06 as you mentioned, but I found the 25-06 to have a pretty good recoil as well.


Good luck
.243 is a good choice but it all depends, some of those women can handle the big stuff better then men. I know one girl who prefers the 7mm mag.
Go with the 270 the 270 was my second deer rifle I was 14 when I got it and I was really small back then and the recoil wasnt too bad.
My wife loves her .243. She likes that caliber enough the I am about to build a target rifle in that caliber. She will go with me four or five times a year and burn up two boxes of shells before she gets bored of hitting the center at 100 %26amp; 200 yards.
.270 all the way. i had a muzzle break put on mine so i could watch the bullet go right in the target becuse there would be no kick to it. before i put the brake on it it had just a little kick to it but nothing my little 12 year old brother couldnt handle. so i think that your wife should be ok.
Why not a .30-30 WCF Marlin M-336.





Report and recoil are mild, and more deer have been killed with the .30-30 than any other cartridge, except maybe the .22 LR.





But TR is right. Unless your wife is confident in her rifle, she won't be comfortable, nor will she be accurate.





Whatever rifle you buy her, be sure she practices enough to be not only proficient, but consistent, and comfortable. If she won't practice, don't let her bring a rifle into the woods. Poor marksmanship is not acceptable for an ethical hunter.





Doc
if your wife is afraid of shooting she wont be able to hit the broad side of a barn, regardless of the caliber, and you can forget about the ';clean'; kill, but she may get a gut shot, if she hits it at all, and then you will just have to wash the bile out of the meat when you finaly find it after the 5 mile chase. if I was you I would make sure she can hit the target and then let her go out with what ever she is comfortable with, in this state (maine), the only rifle that is not legal to use is .22 but 2-.22 is perfectly legal, (I have taken deer with a 2-22 before when my 300 sav was not working) I beleave it is because it has the least amount of power neded to break through the brest bone and kill the animal,





There is no point in putting a .50 cal in her hands if she is just going to hit a dear in the hoof, let her use what she likes as long as it is legal and she will get the ';clean'; kill.
I hunt with a 270 and a 30-06...pretty much the same...but I have no problems with either! Good luck!
There are some questions that you should answer before so I can give a quality answer on which caliber you wife should be looking at for a hunting rifle. First, what state do you live in (some states require shotguns for deer hunting)? Second, what is the typical weight of your bucks and does?





Let's assume you can use a center fire rifle cartridge for deer hunting in your state. And let's assume your typical buck weighs around 160-180 lbs (6-8 point in Texas), does would obviously weigh less.





A .223 offers plenty of down range killing power for deer this size. Of course it depends alot on shot placement. A shot in the lung using any caliber will result in a long chase to recover your wounded deer; whereas, a shot in the head/neck will ultimately force the deer to submit to gravity rather quickly. Other newer calibers are proving out with even better results, such as the new .223 WSSM, I know Browning makes a nice light weight A-Bolt in this caliber that has proved to be a remarkable deer rifle.





I have downed midsize texas bucks with head shots at 140 + yards with my .223 and they take only 2-3 steps maximum before going down for good. Oh, and I was using a varmint load too (ammo left over from a prairie dog hunt earlier that year).





Before you scouf at my choice of ammo, read on...





I also downed a nice wild texas hog that weighed out to 250 lbs. with a head shot at 130 + yards with my .220 Swift and he fell flat on his side and kicked for 5 minutes. I was using a varmint load on him too (ammo left over from a prairie dog hunt earlier that year). Hogs have more bone mass in their skulls which would dictate a more powerful cartridge such as a .220 Swift or more. I purposely choose the Swift over the .223 for this animal because of it's inherent bone mass.





Whatever cartridge you choose, practice on a range is vital to a sucessful hunt. Always know some basic anatomy of your prey, it can help you make a proper shot placement and that will save you from having to make a lengthy chase or worse...lose filling a tag altogether.





I hope this helped. Tell her happy huntress for me!
I would let her try shooting anything in the .308 Win family. That would be the .243 win, 7mm-08 Rem or the .308. There are one or two more, but the ammo is harder to find. I think the 7-08 is the ideal whitetail cartridge. It has good weight of bullets, 140 grain is the norm, and has good energy with tolerable recoil.





Let her shoot some guns of varying recoil to see how she reacts to them. Let her decide what would be best for her.
You may be surprised to learn there are cartridge cases shorter than 63 mm on the market. A quarter-bore would do, though the 257 Roberts would be a better choice among them. I feel like you, though, and want a bit more these days. I've had good luck supplying a lot of my family with 7mm08's, and I myself often use my 7mm Mauser. One of the 6.5's would be a good consideration as well: either the Swede or the 260 Rem. Recoil isn't really a problem if you have a well-fitted stock, so I'd worry more about the wood than the caliber. All of these are pussycats, and WDM Bell killed over a thousand elephants with his 7mm Mauser and 6.5 mm Mannlicher, so you certainly don't need to worry about being undergunned with those and the great sectional density of some of the loads available.
My second wife, and old ranch gal, swore by her .243 Remington. She stood about 5'1'; and weighed in at 110 on her heaviest day. She had no problems using the rifle and picked off some fine Mule Deer with it. She never had any concerns about the recoil. Start off with the lightest load you can find. That will keep recoil to a minimum. Wear ear protection. Nothing produces flinch faster than that loud noise.
all depends alot has been said here already, i believe the 243 is up there with the 25.06 in shot placement, the 260 remington and 7mm-08 are good choices also the 30.06,308 and 270 have reduced recoil loads available from federal and remington ammunition, using reduced recoil ammo to start is great and allows use of a caliber suited to hunt more than just deer, 243/25.06 on blackbears or elk i wouldn't but a 308 270 30.06 with full power loads after practice fits the bill, because we never know what the future holds for a husband and wife hunting team
i like 257 roberts,,,25,06 ,,,6 mm.. 270 may b to much...try to borrow one to try...im amazed by people who think a 223 is a deer gun... great for shooting ground hog and people and targets..
if she can handel it a .308 if not go with the .270those are the best two cal. guns out there
as far as recoil is concerned, try a .223. it's good to the shoulder, and will drop a deer easily...
My wife isn't much of a hunter, but she does enjoy shooting at the range when I can drag her along with us. She's 5'4'; about 110lbs and enjoys shooting my Rem 700 .270. My oldest son shoots the 30-06 and that is way too much gun for her. I've had no problem at all with the .270 on mulies, so unless you are planning on using it for elk or bigger, the .270 should be fine for your wife.
I agree that 243 or 270 caliber would be the way to go. You didn't mention what type of area you'll be hunting with your wife so either one of theses calibers will do the job just fine. Good choice of commercially loaded ammunition or custom hand loads, modest recoil that she should be able to handle pretty easily.Plenty of muzzle velocity to put a Deer down with a well placed shot. I would definitely choose one of these calibers to my customers or for my own use under the circumstances. Good Luck to you and your wife this season..No matter which you choose!
7.62x39. We hunt in the woods and this caliber is fine in the 200 yards or less range that we take deer at.
25-06 is a good choice. Oter good choices are 243 and 7mm-08. The 7mm-08 would be my choice.
30-06
My wife has a 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser that I made for her. I cut the stock to fit her smaller frame and cut some of the barrel off to lighten it up. And then put a compensator on the barrel because she is recoil shy. And then just so she would know it was exclusively for her and not the boys I inlaid a Susan B Anthony Silver Dollar in the stock. She loves it.
i'd buy her none, because when i did something stupid she might shoot me.
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  • What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?

    I want to know cause im planning on getting a revolver for deer hunting.What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?
    I'd look at a Ruger or Smith %26amp; Wesson in .44 Magnum. The .357 will do the trick but you're going to have to be dead accurate with the shot unless you fancy chasing a wounded white-tail. The.41 Magnum is a good round, but .44 is more plentiful and available in more variety.





    The six-inch barrel will not only give you more muzzle velocity and energy, it will also reduce the recoil and give you a better sighting picture.What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?
    Deerslayer, ok here's a question about your question. Are you going to purchase a handgun just to hunt with or a revolver so you can shoot at the range, carry on road trips, have as a backup to a hunting rifle. The reason I ask is I enjoy handgun hunting more than any other type of firearm hunting. I have the 357s, 41, 44s, 45s, and 357 maximum all in different revolvers. But for strictly handgun hunting I have a TC chambered in 7mm/06 with a 14 inch barrel that takes large deer size game down to jack rabbits out to 200 yards. I also have a custom barrel chambered in a wildcat 6.5 x 250 that works great on varmints. If your looking for a handgun hunting only type handgun you might look at some of the single shot pistols on the market that will let you shoot 100 to 150 yards accurately. Good luck and good hunting.
    The .44 magnum is the classic choice. However, the .357 magnum, 41 magnum and 10mm with hot loads are also reasonable choices. There are also a lot of more powerful and exotic calibers that I won't mention. But if its got as much or more power than a .357 it will work.





    But I think the sweet spot really is the .44 magnum.
    I have hunted whitetail with my SW .41 and have had tremendous luck with it. I have also used a .44 with similar results, but the difference in recoil and what you actually get from your round, the .41 outweighs the .44 imho, hands down.
    It would be a toss up as to either the .44 magnum or the .45 Colt. Saying that you need to realize I'm not talking about a .45 Colt cowboy load, but a true petal to the metal Ruger, Casull, T/C Contender load. Something with a muzzle velocity over 900 fps.





    Take a look at the link below;
    Any of these calibers within 50 yards; the 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, and the 44 Magnum.* Use a 6 inch barrel with adjustable sights.* Or mount a scope on it.* Recommend Smith %26amp; Wesson or Ruger Brand.*
    Overall, I'd say 44 Magnum. I use 41 Magnum and heavy-loaded 45 Colt, too, but they give up a little something for general use. And I'm one who wouldn't include 357 Magnum in the mix at all. You can, of course, go for one of the huge bangers, but there's really no need for them.
    357 mag as a minimum out of a 6 inch barrel inside 50 yards





    I use a Ruger 30 carbine revolver but that is a small rifle round and is great for inside 50 yards.
    I use a 6'; Dan Wesson .357 and it worked the one time in 4 years that I got close enough to a deer to shoot at it.
    You'll need at least a .357 Magnum, or better yet a .41 or .44 Magnum if you can handle them. Use the heaviest hollow point ammo you can get.
    I agree with those who say 357 Magnum or bigger. Use a gun with at least a 6'; barrel and ammo with a grain weight of at least 180 grains if using 357.
    I would look into the .41 Magnum. In my opinion, it is the best hunting caliber ever made.
    41mag. taurus tracker using premium cast bullets or a .44mag revolver
    i would want a .41 Magnum or .44 Magnum, but the minimum would be a .357 Mag
    Have to agree .357 magnum or bigger.

    Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?

    Also, I have been considering Thinsulate coats, does anyone have any thoughts about them?Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?
    Coveralls or bib and jacket with layers.Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?
    A decent jacket that sells very well in Illinois is Carhart. Most, if not all Carhart's have a layer of Gor-tek inside of them, which is water repellent...keeps you dry during snowy season. I wouldn't recommend getting them at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's however; they're quite expensive. You'd be better off going to Farm %26amp; Fleet...you can get a decent Carhart jacket there for about $70. If you go to Cabela's, you'd probably wind up paying out about $130-$150.
    My recommendation is not from Cableas but Bass Pro Shops carries a Red Head Boned Dry Cold Weather system that I own and it is awesome. There is a lighter jacket that zips in to a parka. So on mild days you can just wear the inner jacket but on cold days you have one bad coat. I have hunted in really cold conditions with this set up and it works better than anything else. Pants are great too.
    Go with layers. Maybe an oversized camo sweatshirt to go over regular clothing,for decent weather,then a large jacket with removable liner for various temperature changes. I have heavy gear but find it hot unless it`s -30 or - 40. there are many brands to chose from.
    I have and use the Carhart with the quilted arctic insulation, it's almost too warm sometimes.
    Cabelas MT 050 Coat with separate polar tec base i stay dry and warm up here in Michigan

    Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?

    What is it called? how much is it?Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?
    they have ones that send them directly to your computer/laptop, I do notk now of ones sending them to your phone.Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?
    Hello, to answer your question.....YES there are several. The question is how much do you want to spend? Try these out....CellularEye, cellular-scout cs-05, e-buckmail, and Buckeye cam. You are going to spend from $600-$2000.


    Hope this helps you out. Deerkiller29
    i doubt it- that would require the camera to have a tremendous battery supply and internet access or at least messaging capability
    Not yet but they are working on one that will not only take the picture of the deer but will shoot it for you, then skin it, field dress it and then call and let you know where to pick it up. No really!! Have I ever lied to you before?

    How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?

    I'm now 25 years old and have never had anything close to an accident. So naturally I carry liability only insurance for my automobile. Well 2 nights ago I hit a deer on the way home causing moderate front end damage to the car. How ';illegal'; would it be if I were to add comprehensive insurance to my policy, then wait a few days and make a claim?How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?
    There are tons of websites where you can get a free insurance quote. http://www.lowestquoteonline.info/Auto-I鈥?/a> It only takes a few minutes to do.How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?
    Yes it is illegal and is a fraud. When you hit a deer, you need to have the comprehensive coverage in order to claim insurance and should inform your insurance agent or insurance company about the incident. In some cases, the insurance rates could go up after making the claim with the insurance company. So to get the best monetary benefit or claim, you need to know how to handle your insurance claim.
    DANGER MR. ROBINSON鈥?DANGER! This is a huge red flag. Insurance Co鈥檚 have automatic alerts set for cases just like this. If the insurance co lets you add the comp coverage without an inspection, making a claim shortly after adding the coverage will trigger a red flag. Bigger ins co's have fraud units especially design to go after fraudulent claims. Those Co's have in house litigation teams that will go after you heavily. You鈥檒l pay more in court cost than it cost you to fix the car. Sell the deer meat to pay for the damages. I'm sure there's a hungry backwoods family that will pay you top dollar for a battered Bambi.
    In addition to all the responses below, this would be a ';red flag'; to the adjuster that was assigned to your claim. They can see any changes you've made in coverage and they would likely have the special investigations unit (they investigate insurance fraud) investigate your claim.
    I don't think you're the first to think of it. Therefore the insurance company adjusters or fraud department would probably be suspicious if you made a claim a few days after getting insurance. Insurance fraud is not something you want to get nailed with.
    If the damage is moderate, I would suggest making the repairs out of pocket and not even bother with your insurance. Making the claim will more than likely make your insurance rate go up, and stay at that higher rate for 3 years.
    Whatever you added to your insurance would cover from that day forward, not in the past. If you made a claim for an accident during the time you weren't covered, it would be fraudulent. Insurance adjusters are quite good at uncovering fraudulent claims. I wouldn't try it.
    That's called ';insurance fraud';, and in most states, it's illegal enough to be considered a felony. You can damn well bet if you make a claim a few days after increasing your coverage, the insurance company WILL investigate you.
    its called fraud/its indictable and carrys a felony prosecution/usually when you apply for collision you need to get pictures of the car before it becomes insured/comp has nothing to do with collision what your damage will be classified/good thinking to become a criminal wow
    adding that type of coverage usually involves the car being inspected by an agent before it gets accepted, did you think you were the first person who thought of that? as for how illegal it would be?...come onnnn, do I need to explain that to you?
    If the question is legality, then it is very illegal.





    However you won't be the first person doing it. It is highly unlikely if you will be send behind bars and stuff like that. If you have to do it, then advise is be extra cautious.
    Do yourself a favor, and fix it yourself. For what you are about too try to do will not work . Thy will have you bring your car to them ,So thy can check for any dings you may have before thy Insure you.
    Highly illegal.





    It's called insurance fraud.





    It's a felony.
    Extremely. Felony insurance fraud. Potentially several years in prison. Less serious than murder. No death penalty.
    Very illegal.


    It is called insurance fraud.


    People go to jail all the time for it.
    That would be insurance fraud. You may get away with it or maybe not.