She knew I was an avid hunter before we got married, and she has knowingly eaten and even cooked deer meat. For some reason, now, my hunting is a problem. I've tried all the logical arguments, but she still gets upset when I go hunting...Help!How can I get my wife to tolerate my deer hunting?
Point out that hunting is actually more humane in a lot of ways. Cattle are bred just for food...they are shot up with hormones and antibiotics, castrated, branded, and then led to an ';assembly line'; style slaughter where they probably see what happens to the cow in front of them. Even worse with chickens, they mostly grow up crammed into pens.
When you go hunting, the deer lives its happy free deer life going where it wants, doing what it wants, and eating what it wants...until it's shot, and if you're a good shot he doesn't even see it coming. To me that sounds a lot more humane. Personally I'd rather be blindsided by a hunter than killed in an assembly line at a slaughterhouse. Bring THAT up the next time she eats beef or chicken.How can I get my wife to tolerate my deer hunting?
well I don't know,Deer hunting saves her grocery money on meat. You are not at the bars but in the woods having a good time getting her some dinner.It is not like it is year around.You are going to have to just let her know that you enjoy it and are going to go Hunting.I am seriously thinking of getting my license and going next year.My Oldest Son Hunts and Now my Youngest wants to go.
Remember you can disagree without being disagreeable.* You cannot reason with an unreasonable woman.* She is just trying to manipulate you.* It was a huge part of your life before you met her, just keep it that way or cave in to the criticism, condemning and complaining.* Your choice, not hers.* The only way for you to stop Hunting is because you want to stop Hunting, not because Anyone, Anywhere, at Anytime wants you to stop Hunting.* That is something I would never compromise for Anyone, Anywhere, at Anytime.* { Wife included}*
Make sure she doesn't get the notion that hunting is your 'first love' and that she comes second. Although, this time of year that's hard to do! I'll bet she's feeling like she's taken a back burner to your real passion.
Be careful with the ';food on the table'; arguments.....I know some guys that probably hunt that efficiently, but for most of us, it's an expensive hobby. Know the numbers before you attempt to go down what may be a rabbit hole, she does!
My gun club has a women's program, run by the lady who owns a local gun shop with her husband, and it's been a blessing to some of my friends whose wives were anti's. See if there's something like that near you. My wife and the gun shop owner are now good friends and the wife routinely drags women she knows to take up self-defense pistol classes, clay soprts and even hunting classes.
Also, make your hunting an activity that helps your community. Many homeless shelters or food banks will take the meat, and some processors will donate the processing if the meat's going to feed the hungry in the community.
Those of us who are fit, active and blessed enough to be able to spend the time, energy and money to go hunting also have an obligation to share in the bounty we harvest.
If you wife is religious, or just civic-minded, involve her in the sharing of what you harvest. It could be as simple as helping you find needy families in your town that could use a roast on the table or some ground meat in the freezer.
Trust me, what you give is repaid to you many times, and it can change both of yours perception of hunting from a selfish pursuit to a noble cause.
The question is, why do you tolerate a woman who tries to manipulate you like that? Give in and what will it get you? You'll have lost something you enjoy and she'll just start looking for something else to take away from you to make you as miserable as she is.
Take her with you. I honestly used to fuss at my husband for hunting too. I wanted the time that he spent on hunting spent with me instead. Little did I realize that it is almost like an addiction that just keeps drawing you back to those woods. My husband talked me into going with him...no strings attached. It was such a rush. Now he gets to go hunting %26amp; we spend time together. If I have my children %26amp; am unable to go, I, at least, UNDERSTAND him %26amp; his desire to go since I've experienced it firsthand. Good luck. (If that doesn't work, remind her about the time limits / seasons. You normally can only go for so long %26amp; then, unfortunately, it is over. Then, you'll be ALL HER';S!! That is, of course, unless it's good fishing time then. LOL) If all of that doesn't work, just divorce her....hunting isn't a hobby, but a way of life. I'm only kidding!!!
The other girl had it; she just wants you to spend time with her instead of going hunting. She's jealous that you get excited about hunting but not about her.
As long as you're not having sex with deer, she has nothing to worry about.
Take her with you next time.
Make her help gut-out and haul the carcass she'll be 'hooked' on the hunt.
One downside item: You'll have to buy an additional deer rifle for future hunts.
take her.
Let me see if i got this right. She knew upfront before you married her that you are a hunter, and now all of a sudden she has a problem with it? She's using your hunting as an excuse for her behaviour, there's an underlying cause which for some reason she has decided to hide from you. Get into marriage counselling as soon as you can, if she won't be open and honest with you, there's a real need for intervention. If in fact your hunting is the reral cause of her behaviour, you need to gently remind her that she was well aware of the fact that you are a hunter, and that she entered the marriage with full disclosure of this fact without a complaint about it. It's not your problem, it's her problem that she is trying to make yours. DO NOT accept her issues as your own problem! It's not fair to you obviously, and it's not fair to her either by allowing her to give you the responsibility for her own actions and decisions. She has to be made aware of this before it escalates into something much more than it is now. It was her that changed her mind about your hunting, YOU have done nothing wrong here, she was ok with it before, now suddenly she's not ok. She needs to be honest with you about this in order for any kind of resolution to occur.
She'll either get over it or not! It really depends on why she doesn't want you to go!
divorce!
If she doesn't hunt, make sure that you spend as much time with her doing whatever is as important to her as hunting is to you. Be sincere!!! This is the voice of experience talking.
How often do you go? Sure hunting season is short and the year is long. But if you are going hunting 2 days a week during the season, you aren't spending much time with her. If you don't go that often than there might be some other problem. When I was married the first few years she missed me when I was gone but never complained. The last few years of our marriage she begged me to go hunting as often as possible. Then she divorced me. So if she is telling you she doesn't like it....there might be something else bothering her. Maybe she needs a hobby of her own.
tell her to beat it or shut up.just because she does not like it doesnt give her the right to moan about it.
let her get mad. you'll be hunting, she'll be sittin home in a bad mood. Big Deal.
I am a woman hunter and I used to be just like your wife. I started going hunting with my husband and now I hunt more than he does. I work for a hunting magazine for women and there are many women on our site that are learning about hunting. It is easier and better for a women to accept hunting when she has an understanding of the sport. Encourage her to visit our site (www.thewomanhunter.com). There are lots of articles that women hunters have written (including myself) about hunting. Tell her to read ';Posted: All Hunters Wanted';. For that matter, go to the site yourself and print it off for her to read. I wrote this article and it is how I got involved in hunting. Invite her to go with you, but do not force the issue. I think once she meets other women that hunt and participates in an organization that educates and encourages women hunters, her opinion will change. I just returned from a mule deer hunt in Texas with my husband and I got a bigger one than he did. I also went to Michigan on a pheasant hunt this year without my husband and have a hunt planned every month next year, only one of which will be with my husband. Don't give up because it is not a lost cause. Good Luck!!
Take her with you. Give her a gray sweatshirt and gray pants. That should do the trick.
I, had a similar problem with my first 2 wives. even after jumping through all the hoops, plus counseling, they still had a problem.
The lady that i am now married to, doesn't hunt, but doesn't mind if i do.
all i can say, is GOOD LUCK
take her with you, so she can get a taste of what its like to capture a pawn in it's own place.
get a new wife its easier
You my friend are screwed, plain and simple. I lost two good hunting buddys to the exact same phenomena. I'm now hunting pheasants with my beagle because one of them was the guy with the bird dogs and we wanted to get into rabbit hunting more so instead of getting another lab, I got a beagle, sigh.... He no longer has the labs, either!
I think it was Wilson on Tool Time that said it best ';Men marry women expecting them to remain the same, women marry men expecting them to change';
One thing you could try is to constantly be around her every freakin minute until she is so sick of seeing you that she will be glad to get a weekend alone. Unless there is some unknown underlying reason, that is causing her to resent the time you spend hunting, just give it up, you are toast. Avoid the money saving argument, it just doesn't even come close. The amount of money I spend hunting I could fill our freezer a couple of times over with beef and fowl.
My wife is pretty reasonable about it, she doesn't mind the occasional long weekend with my buddies hunting, especially if I take my sons with us, but she lets me know really quick when I am abusing it! The only time she really minded a lot is when I would get back from a long overseas tour.
Got anything good to sell??
Get her a deer costume for X-Mas. She will change her mind.
I can feel for your wife.....I am a newly wed and I have only been married for about 3 months........and my husband is a big time hunter......I hate it ....at first I thought it was cool he had something he really like to do.....even if I didn't understand it.......but when I moved in with him after we got married .......I noticed he was out allot :hunting and now this is the second time he leaves me for the week to go hunting..........and I feel soo unimportant to him.....considering I am living in a new town and am still trying to adjust.......he left me to go hunting!!!!!! Priority ....your wife should come first.....your wife just loves u and wants you around....be happy . When she rather have u go , then Worry...
stop hunting then - it's so cruel!
i can't believe all of these answers - everyone seems to think it's perfectly ok to go out killing animals.
You can't make her tolerate it .... she believes its wrong ...its her choice to think that
Friday, February 12, 2010
What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
I live in suburban CA, and I've never seen any roadkill bigger than coyotes.
Are you supposed to leave it where it is? What should one expect to hear if you are pulled over afterward, and will you be fined or brought in for questioning if the damage to (and blood on) your car looks suspicious?What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
If the animal is big enough, you won't be going anywhere.
Notify the police so they can have someone remove the animal, especially if it is still in the road. It's a road hazard that needs removal. If you can, without creating an additional hazard for yourself, place some kind of advanced warning for traffic (flares, triangles or anything you may have). If you can't move your car, you don't want other drivers doing further damage to your car.
You'll need a police report to have the insurance company pay for the damage repair.What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
I got hit by a deer last April, and I did not report it. This deer came running full-blast out of nowhere and ran head-first into my fender, crumpling it and barfing all over it. Then he got up and ran off.
In NJ if you call a cop, he will give you a ticket. I'd get a ticket for ';interfering with the wildlife right-of-way';. It was the same township that gave one of my friends a ticket for driving during a bright sunny day with a daytime running headlight burnt out...the local Stillwater township cop said the ';car was being run in an unmaintained and unsafe condition';, and the local judge upheld it and my friend was fined $120 (he is 40+ years old, so he's not a teenager). Luckily he researched the statute, and he reminded the judge that the maximum fine allowed for the violation is $40.
Anyway, regarding my deer hit, I simply reported it to the insurance company the next day. They scheduled an estimator to come out, judge the damage, make sure it was confirmed, then the insurance co. sent me a check for the repairs. I believe deer damage is covered under comprehensive, not collision, on my insurance...your mileage may vary.
Just a personal opinion, but I think I got a much more sizeable check because I worked with the estimator and didn't give him a hard time, I also accommodated his early-morning schedule, and that was back when I was working night shift.
I know that in Medera County, you should call the local Animal Control or street department to pick it up\euthanize it if need be- just to be kind. You dont want to leave a dead animal in the road as a hazard to other motorists, nor do you want to leave an injured animal suffer. Just use common sense and be safe! And dont forget to call nyour insurance company to report it for coverage!
I grew up in Wisconsin where most everyone I knew (except me) hit a deer. My dad hit 2 in his Suburban. The only thing I knew that if you want the insurance to pay you need a report so it may be in your interest to have an officer come. Also if the animal is wounded, it becomes an ethical issue to have the animal put out of it's misery. Can't say about the law in CA though. Sorry
Well you should have stop and called the police to report it because if the Animal is hurt then can destroy it. But since you didn't stop after hitting the animal it could be consider a hit and run. Which alone is huge problem where you could lose your license.
i live in cali too and if we ever hit a deer we have to eat it because its really tasty and if you hit one you call me ok my number is 911 9119
Are you supposed to leave it where it is? What should one expect to hear if you are pulled over afterward, and will you be fined or brought in for questioning if the damage to (and blood on) your car looks suspicious?What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
If the animal is big enough, you won't be going anywhere.
Notify the police so they can have someone remove the animal, especially if it is still in the road. It's a road hazard that needs removal. If you can, without creating an additional hazard for yourself, place some kind of advanced warning for traffic (flares, triangles or anything you may have). If you can't move your car, you don't want other drivers doing further damage to your car.
You'll need a police report to have the insurance company pay for the damage repair.What is expected of a motorist who accidentally hits a large animal, such as a deer?
I got hit by a deer last April, and I did not report it. This deer came running full-blast out of nowhere and ran head-first into my fender, crumpling it and barfing all over it. Then he got up and ran off.
In NJ if you call a cop, he will give you a ticket. I'd get a ticket for ';interfering with the wildlife right-of-way';. It was the same township that gave one of my friends a ticket for driving during a bright sunny day with a daytime running headlight burnt out...the local Stillwater township cop said the ';car was being run in an unmaintained and unsafe condition';, and the local judge upheld it and my friend was fined $120 (he is 40+ years old, so he's not a teenager). Luckily he researched the statute, and he reminded the judge that the maximum fine allowed for the violation is $40.
Anyway, regarding my deer hit, I simply reported it to the insurance company the next day. They scheduled an estimator to come out, judge the damage, make sure it was confirmed, then the insurance co. sent me a check for the repairs. I believe deer damage is covered under comprehensive, not collision, on my insurance...your mileage may vary.
Just a personal opinion, but I think I got a much more sizeable check because I worked with the estimator and didn't give him a hard time, I also accommodated his early-morning schedule, and that was back when I was working night shift.
I know that in Medera County, you should call the local Animal Control or street department to pick it up\euthanize it if need be- just to be kind. You dont want to leave a dead animal in the road as a hazard to other motorists, nor do you want to leave an injured animal suffer. Just use common sense and be safe! And dont forget to call nyour insurance company to report it for coverage!
I grew up in Wisconsin where most everyone I knew (except me) hit a deer. My dad hit 2 in his Suburban. The only thing I knew that if you want the insurance to pay you need a report so it may be in your interest to have an officer come. Also if the animal is wounded, it becomes an ethical issue to have the animal put out of it's misery. Can't say about the law in CA though. Sorry
Well you should have stop and called the police to report it because if the Animal is hurt then can destroy it. But since you didn't stop after hitting the animal it could be consider a hit and run. Which alone is huge problem where you could lose your license.
i live in cali too and if we ever hit a deer we have to eat it because its really tasty and if you hit one you call me ok my number is 911 9119
What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?
She is concerned about to much recoil. I have been told that a 25'06 would be a good caliber as far as recoil is concerned. My only concern is that she will have to make a perfect shot every time in order to have a clean kill. I'm thinking a 270, but would that be to much recoil?What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?
Recoil in ft lbs
Caliber - rifle Wt - recoil in ft lbs
30-30 - 7.5 - 10.6
.308 - 7.5 - 15.8
.270 - 8.0 - 17.0
30-06 - 8.0 - 20.3
300Wby Mag - 9.25 - 24.6
This will give you some idea - NO it's not going to be exact for every bullet weight/velocity/etc
Ways to reduce felt recoil - A good b*** pad, increase the weight of the rifle and Mag-Na-Port it. %26gt;I have a 300Wby, the felt recoil is actually less than a .308
If most of your hunting will be under 150yds I would give strong consideration to a Marlin 336 in 30-30
If you are going to be hunting on a lot of flat open ground, see how a .308 Remington 700 or Ruger 77 fits her.
You can always use a .22 LR for practice.What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?
Your Two(2)* best choices for your purpose is 30-30 or 30-06.* They are well known for harvesting more Deer than any other caliber.* Recoil is manageable.* I prefer the 30-06 because it is more versatile %26amp; has a greater variety of bullet weights to choose from. When you have a 30-06 you really don't need to buy another caliber.*
.243 or .270 would be ideal if you are buying a new rifle.
Nothing wrong with a .30-30 either, if your shots are typically in the 100 yard and under range.
.308 reduced recoil loads.....you should consider that as well. I shot some recently and was impressed at my groups at 100. I'd like to do some more distance with them next, but consider me a believer in them on first impressions.
I would consider the following: .243 Win, .260 Remington or the 6.5 X55 Swede, or the .257 Roberts or 7mm x 57 Mauser round. The 7mm-08 is a great round and the .308 may be something she can handle. If hunting distances are not over 150 yards, also consider the venerable .30-30 Winchester. It has definitely taken more deer over the last 100 years than any other round.
These all are great calibers for a man too!!
With calibers like the 243 and 2506, she will have to make a perfect shot everytime or else they're going to go a long way --- especially with shouldershots because you don't know if the bullet is going to hold up.
I'd much rather use a 308 (150) or 30-30 (170-180) if she can handle it. I wouldn't go with a 3006 because that is too much for a lot of guys. Recoil is more of a mental thing than a psyical thing for reasonable calibers. If she's going to flinch with a 308, she's going to do so with a 243 as well.
Might as well go for the best of the bunch - 308
Tyler, the .25-06 is probably the ideal deer rifle. I've killed Whitetail deer with both and believe me, they just drop. I'll bet the deer couldn't tell which caliber hit them.
I bought my wife a .270 Weatherby Vanguard (.270 Win. caliber) in the early Seventies. She still has it and she has no trouble with the recoil so long as she uses the 130 grain bullets. I actually prefer the .25-06 Remingto for deer hunting and I'm not recoil shy (I regularly shoot a .458 Winchester magnum). Go figure!
Best.
H
The only thing availabe in centerfire with little to no recoil is the .223 Remington, but this is too light for deer. I would not go with anything less than a .270. She will just have to get accustomed to the recoil.
308
I'm a .270 fanatic. I've taken everything from coyote, to antelope, to mule deer, to elk, to blackbear with them. My favorite rifle is a model 70 winchester featherweight, with a muzzlebrake on it, I glass bedded the barrel, had a trigger job done and would not trade it for any rifle in any calibur. I've hunted with a lot of different rifles and caliburs but that is my choice for hunting in america. If your worried about recoil, just do like I did and have a muzzle brake installed. It's loud, but recoils like a .22 magnum That's what I have my wife and 16 year old daughter hunting with too. But, I started them both out on the .257 roberts. They both just fell in love with the accuracy, and lack of recoil on my rifel, so I had to get them each one just like it. Other good choices are the 7mm08 and the 25-06 as you mentioned, but I found the 25-06 to have a pretty good recoil as well.
Good luck
.243 is a good choice but it all depends, some of those women can handle the big stuff better then men. I know one girl who prefers the 7mm mag.
Go with the 270 the 270 was my second deer rifle I was 14 when I got it and I was really small back then and the recoil wasnt too bad.
My wife loves her .243. She likes that caliber enough the I am about to build a target rifle in that caliber. She will go with me four or five times a year and burn up two boxes of shells before she gets bored of hitting the center at 100 %26amp; 200 yards.
.270 all the way. i had a muzzle break put on mine so i could watch the bullet go right in the target becuse there would be no kick to it. before i put the brake on it it had just a little kick to it but nothing my little 12 year old brother couldnt handle. so i think that your wife should be ok.
Why not a .30-30 WCF Marlin M-336.
Report and recoil are mild, and more deer have been killed with the .30-30 than any other cartridge, except maybe the .22 LR.
But TR is right. Unless your wife is confident in her rifle, she won't be comfortable, nor will she be accurate.
Whatever rifle you buy her, be sure she practices enough to be not only proficient, but consistent, and comfortable. If she won't practice, don't let her bring a rifle into the woods. Poor marksmanship is not acceptable for an ethical hunter.
Doc
if your wife is afraid of shooting she wont be able to hit the broad side of a barn, regardless of the caliber, and you can forget about the ';clean'; kill, but she may get a gut shot, if she hits it at all, and then you will just have to wash the bile out of the meat when you finaly find it after the 5 mile chase. if I was you I would make sure she can hit the target and then let her go out with what ever she is comfortable with, in this state (maine), the only rifle that is not legal to use is .22 but 2-.22 is perfectly legal, (I have taken deer with a 2-22 before when my 300 sav was not working) I beleave it is because it has the least amount of power neded to break through the brest bone and kill the animal,
There is no point in putting a .50 cal in her hands if she is just going to hit a dear in the hoof, let her use what she likes as long as it is legal and she will get the ';clean'; kill.
I hunt with a 270 and a 30-06...pretty much the same...but I have no problems with either! Good luck!
There are some questions that you should answer before so I can give a quality answer on which caliber you wife should be looking at for a hunting rifle. First, what state do you live in (some states require shotguns for deer hunting)? Second, what is the typical weight of your bucks and does?
Let's assume you can use a center fire rifle cartridge for deer hunting in your state. And let's assume your typical buck weighs around 160-180 lbs (6-8 point in Texas), does would obviously weigh less.
A .223 offers plenty of down range killing power for deer this size. Of course it depends alot on shot placement. A shot in the lung using any caliber will result in a long chase to recover your wounded deer; whereas, a shot in the head/neck will ultimately force the deer to submit to gravity rather quickly. Other newer calibers are proving out with even better results, such as the new .223 WSSM, I know Browning makes a nice light weight A-Bolt in this caliber that has proved to be a remarkable deer rifle.
I have downed midsize texas bucks with head shots at 140 + yards with my .223 and they take only 2-3 steps maximum before going down for good. Oh, and I was using a varmint load too (ammo left over from a prairie dog hunt earlier that year).
Before you scouf at my choice of ammo, read on...
I also downed a nice wild texas hog that weighed out to 250 lbs. with a head shot at 130 + yards with my .220 Swift and he fell flat on his side and kicked for 5 minutes. I was using a varmint load on him too (ammo left over from a prairie dog hunt earlier that year). Hogs have more bone mass in their skulls which would dictate a more powerful cartridge such as a .220 Swift or more. I purposely choose the Swift over the .223 for this animal because of it's inherent bone mass.
Whatever cartridge you choose, practice on a range is vital to a sucessful hunt. Always know some basic anatomy of your prey, it can help you make a proper shot placement and that will save you from having to make a lengthy chase or worse...lose filling a tag altogether.
I hope this helped. Tell her happy huntress for me!
I would let her try shooting anything in the .308 Win family. That would be the .243 win, 7mm-08 Rem or the .308. There are one or two more, but the ammo is harder to find. I think the 7-08 is the ideal whitetail cartridge. It has good weight of bullets, 140 grain is the norm, and has good energy with tolerable recoil.
Let her shoot some guns of varying recoil to see how she reacts to them. Let her decide what would be best for her.
You may be surprised to learn there are cartridge cases shorter than 63 mm on the market. A quarter-bore would do, though the 257 Roberts would be a better choice among them. I feel like you, though, and want a bit more these days. I've had good luck supplying a lot of my family with 7mm08's, and I myself often use my 7mm Mauser. One of the 6.5's would be a good consideration as well: either the Swede or the 260 Rem. Recoil isn't really a problem if you have a well-fitted stock, so I'd worry more about the wood than the caliber. All of these are pussycats, and WDM Bell killed over a thousand elephants with his 7mm Mauser and 6.5 mm Mannlicher, so you certainly don't need to worry about being undergunned with those and the great sectional density of some of the loads available.
My second wife, and old ranch gal, swore by her .243 Remington. She stood about 5'1'; and weighed in at 110 on her heaviest day. She had no problems using the rifle and picked off some fine Mule Deer with it. She never had any concerns about the recoil. Start off with the lightest load you can find. That will keep recoil to a minimum. Wear ear protection. Nothing produces flinch faster than that loud noise.
all depends alot has been said here already, i believe the 243 is up there with the 25.06 in shot placement, the 260 remington and 7mm-08 are good choices also the 30.06,308 and 270 have reduced recoil loads available from federal and remington ammunition, using reduced recoil ammo to start is great and allows use of a caliber suited to hunt more than just deer, 243/25.06 on blackbears or elk i wouldn't but a 308 270 30.06 with full power loads after practice fits the bill, because we never know what the future holds for a husband and wife hunting team
i like 257 roberts,,,25,06 ,,,6 mm.. 270 may b to much...try to borrow one to try...im amazed by people who think a 223 is a deer gun... great for shooting ground hog and people and targets..
if she can handel it a .308 if not go with the .270those are the best two cal. guns out there
as far as recoil is concerned, try a .223. it's good to the shoulder, and will drop a deer easily...
My wife isn't much of a hunter, but she does enjoy shooting at the range when I can drag her along with us. She's 5'4'; about 110lbs and enjoys shooting my Rem 700 .270. My oldest son shoots the 30-06 and that is way too much gun for her. I've had no problem at all with the .270 on mulies, so unless you are planning on using it for elk or bigger, the .270 should be fine for your wife.
I agree that 243 or 270 caliber would be the way to go. You didn't mention what type of area you'll be hunting with your wife so either one of theses calibers will do the job just fine. Good choice of commercially loaded ammunition or custom hand loads, modest recoil that she should be able to handle pretty easily.Plenty of muzzle velocity to put a Deer down with a well placed shot. I would definitely choose one of these calibers to my customers or for my own use under the circumstances. Good Luck to you and your wife this season..No matter which you choose!
7.62x39. We hunt in the woods and this caliber is fine in the 200 yards or less range that we take deer at.
25-06 is a good choice. Oter good choices are 243 and 7mm-08. The 7mm-08 would be my choice.
30-06
My wife has a 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser that I made for her. I cut the stock to fit her smaller frame and cut some of the barrel off to lighten it up. And then put a compensator on the barrel because she is recoil shy. And then just so she would know it was exclusively for her and not the boys I inlaid a Susan B Anthony Silver Dollar in the stock. She loves it.
i'd buy her none, because when i did something stupid she might shoot me.gray hair
Recoil in ft lbs
Caliber - rifle Wt - recoil in ft lbs
30-30 - 7.5 - 10.6
.308 - 7.5 - 15.8
.270 - 8.0 - 17.0
30-06 - 8.0 - 20.3
300Wby Mag - 9.25 - 24.6
This will give you some idea - NO it's not going to be exact for every bullet weight/velocity/etc
Ways to reduce felt recoil - A good b*** pad, increase the weight of the rifle and Mag-Na-Port it. %26gt;I have a 300Wby, the felt recoil is actually less than a .308
If most of your hunting will be under 150yds I would give strong consideration to a Marlin 336 in 30-30
If you are going to be hunting on a lot of flat open ground, see how a .308 Remington 700 or Ruger 77 fits her.
You can always use a .22 LR for practice.What caliber rifle would you buy your wife for deer hunting?
Your Two(2)* best choices for your purpose is 30-30 or 30-06.* They are well known for harvesting more Deer than any other caliber.* Recoil is manageable.* I prefer the 30-06 because it is more versatile %26amp; has a greater variety of bullet weights to choose from. When you have a 30-06 you really don't need to buy another caliber.*
.243 or .270 would be ideal if you are buying a new rifle.
Nothing wrong with a .30-30 either, if your shots are typically in the 100 yard and under range.
.308 reduced recoil loads.....you should consider that as well. I shot some recently and was impressed at my groups at 100. I'd like to do some more distance with them next, but consider me a believer in them on first impressions.
I would consider the following: .243 Win, .260 Remington or the 6.5 X55 Swede, or the .257 Roberts or 7mm x 57 Mauser round. The 7mm-08 is a great round and the .308 may be something she can handle. If hunting distances are not over 150 yards, also consider the venerable .30-30 Winchester. It has definitely taken more deer over the last 100 years than any other round.
These all are great calibers for a man too!!
With calibers like the 243 and 2506, she will have to make a perfect shot everytime or else they're going to go a long way --- especially with shouldershots because you don't know if the bullet is going to hold up.
I'd much rather use a 308 (150) or 30-30 (170-180) if she can handle it. I wouldn't go with a 3006 because that is too much for a lot of guys. Recoil is more of a mental thing than a psyical thing for reasonable calibers. If she's going to flinch with a 308, she's going to do so with a 243 as well.
Might as well go for the best of the bunch - 308
Tyler, the .25-06 is probably the ideal deer rifle. I've killed Whitetail deer with both and believe me, they just drop. I'll bet the deer couldn't tell which caliber hit them.
I bought my wife a .270 Weatherby Vanguard (.270 Win. caliber) in the early Seventies. She still has it and she has no trouble with the recoil so long as she uses the 130 grain bullets. I actually prefer the .25-06 Remingto for deer hunting and I'm not recoil shy (I regularly shoot a .458 Winchester magnum). Go figure!
Best.
H
The only thing availabe in centerfire with little to no recoil is the .223 Remington, but this is too light for deer. I would not go with anything less than a .270. She will just have to get accustomed to the recoil.
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I'm a .270 fanatic. I've taken everything from coyote, to antelope, to mule deer, to elk, to blackbear with them. My favorite rifle is a model 70 winchester featherweight, with a muzzlebrake on it, I glass bedded the barrel, had a trigger job done and would not trade it for any rifle in any calibur. I've hunted with a lot of different rifles and caliburs but that is my choice for hunting in america. If your worried about recoil, just do like I did and have a muzzle brake installed. It's loud, but recoils like a .22 magnum That's what I have my wife and 16 year old daughter hunting with too. But, I started them both out on the .257 roberts. They both just fell in love with the accuracy, and lack of recoil on my rifel, so I had to get them each one just like it. Other good choices are the 7mm08 and the 25-06 as you mentioned, but I found the 25-06 to have a pretty good recoil as well.
Good luck
.243 is a good choice but it all depends, some of those women can handle the big stuff better then men. I know one girl who prefers the 7mm mag.
Go with the 270 the 270 was my second deer rifle I was 14 when I got it and I was really small back then and the recoil wasnt too bad.
My wife loves her .243. She likes that caliber enough the I am about to build a target rifle in that caliber. She will go with me four or five times a year and burn up two boxes of shells before she gets bored of hitting the center at 100 %26amp; 200 yards.
.270 all the way. i had a muzzle break put on mine so i could watch the bullet go right in the target becuse there would be no kick to it. before i put the brake on it it had just a little kick to it but nothing my little 12 year old brother couldnt handle. so i think that your wife should be ok.
Why not a .30-30 WCF Marlin M-336.
Report and recoil are mild, and more deer have been killed with the .30-30 than any other cartridge, except maybe the .22 LR.
But TR is right. Unless your wife is confident in her rifle, she won't be comfortable, nor will she be accurate.
Whatever rifle you buy her, be sure she practices enough to be not only proficient, but consistent, and comfortable. If she won't practice, don't let her bring a rifle into the woods. Poor marksmanship is not acceptable for an ethical hunter.
Doc
if your wife is afraid of shooting she wont be able to hit the broad side of a barn, regardless of the caliber, and you can forget about the ';clean'; kill, but she may get a gut shot, if she hits it at all, and then you will just have to wash the bile out of the meat when you finaly find it after the 5 mile chase. if I was you I would make sure she can hit the target and then let her go out with what ever she is comfortable with, in this state (maine), the only rifle that is not legal to use is .22 but 2-.22 is perfectly legal, (I have taken deer with a 2-22 before when my 300 sav was not working) I beleave it is because it has the least amount of power neded to break through the brest bone and kill the animal,
There is no point in putting a .50 cal in her hands if she is just going to hit a dear in the hoof, let her use what she likes as long as it is legal and she will get the ';clean'; kill.
I hunt with a 270 and a 30-06...pretty much the same...but I have no problems with either! Good luck!
There are some questions that you should answer before so I can give a quality answer on which caliber you wife should be looking at for a hunting rifle. First, what state do you live in (some states require shotguns for deer hunting)? Second, what is the typical weight of your bucks and does?
Let's assume you can use a center fire rifle cartridge for deer hunting in your state. And let's assume your typical buck weighs around 160-180 lbs (6-8 point in Texas), does would obviously weigh less.
A .223 offers plenty of down range killing power for deer this size. Of course it depends alot on shot placement. A shot in the lung using any caliber will result in a long chase to recover your wounded deer; whereas, a shot in the head/neck will ultimately force the deer to submit to gravity rather quickly. Other newer calibers are proving out with even better results, such as the new .223 WSSM, I know Browning makes a nice light weight A-Bolt in this caliber that has proved to be a remarkable deer rifle.
I have downed midsize texas bucks with head shots at 140 + yards with my .223 and they take only 2-3 steps maximum before going down for good. Oh, and I was using a varmint load too (ammo left over from a prairie dog hunt earlier that year).
Before you scouf at my choice of ammo, read on...
I also downed a nice wild texas hog that weighed out to 250 lbs. with a head shot at 130 + yards with my .220 Swift and he fell flat on his side and kicked for 5 minutes. I was using a varmint load on him too (ammo left over from a prairie dog hunt earlier that year). Hogs have more bone mass in their skulls which would dictate a more powerful cartridge such as a .220 Swift or more. I purposely choose the Swift over the .223 for this animal because of it's inherent bone mass.
Whatever cartridge you choose, practice on a range is vital to a sucessful hunt. Always know some basic anatomy of your prey, it can help you make a proper shot placement and that will save you from having to make a lengthy chase or worse...lose filling a tag altogether.
I hope this helped. Tell her happy huntress for me!
I would let her try shooting anything in the .308 Win family. That would be the .243 win, 7mm-08 Rem or the .308. There are one or two more, but the ammo is harder to find. I think the 7-08 is the ideal whitetail cartridge. It has good weight of bullets, 140 grain is the norm, and has good energy with tolerable recoil.
Let her shoot some guns of varying recoil to see how she reacts to them. Let her decide what would be best for her.
You may be surprised to learn there are cartridge cases shorter than 63 mm on the market. A quarter-bore would do, though the 257 Roberts would be a better choice among them. I feel like you, though, and want a bit more these days. I've had good luck supplying a lot of my family with 7mm08's, and I myself often use my 7mm Mauser. One of the 6.5's would be a good consideration as well: either the Swede or the 260 Rem. Recoil isn't really a problem if you have a well-fitted stock, so I'd worry more about the wood than the caliber. All of these are pussycats, and WDM Bell killed over a thousand elephants with his 7mm Mauser and 6.5 mm Mannlicher, so you certainly don't need to worry about being undergunned with those and the great sectional density of some of the loads available.
My second wife, and old ranch gal, swore by her .243 Remington. She stood about 5'1'; and weighed in at 110 on her heaviest day. She had no problems using the rifle and picked off some fine Mule Deer with it. She never had any concerns about the recoil. Start off with the lightest load you can find. That will keep recoil to a minimum. Wear ear protection. Nothing produces flinch faster than that loud noise.
all depends alot has been said here already, i believe the 243 is up there with the 25.06 in shot placement, the 260 remington and 7mm-08 are good choices also the 30.06,308 and 270 have reduced recoil loads available from federal and remington ammunition, using reduced recoil ammo to start is great and allows use of a caliber suited to hunt more than just deer, 243/25.06 on blackbears or elk i wouldn't but a 308 270 30.06 with full power loads after practice fits the bill, because we never know what the future holds for a husband and wife hunting team
i like 257 roberts,,,25,06 ,,,6 mm.. 270 may b to much...try to borrow one to try...im amazed by people who think a 223 is a deer gun... great for shooting ground hog and people and targets..
if she can handel it a .308 if not go with the .270those are the best two cal. guns out there
as far as recoil is concerned, try a .223. it's good to the shoulder, and will drop a deer easily...
My wife isn't much of a hunter, but she does enjoy shooting at the range when I can drag her along with us. She's 5'4'; about 110lbs and enjoys shooting my Rem 700 .270. My oldest son shoots the 30-06 and that is way too much gun for her. I've had no problem at all with the .270 on mulies, so unless you are planning on using it for elk or bigger, the .270 should be fine for your wife.
I agree that 243 or 270 caliber would be the way to go. You didn't mention what type of area you'll be hunting with your wife so either one of theses calibers will do the job just fine. Good choice of commercially loaded ammunition or custom hand loads, modest recoil that she should be able to handle pretty easily.Plenty of muzzle velocity to put a Deer down with a well placed shot. I would definitely choose one of these calibers to my customers or for my own use under the circumstances. Good Luck to you and your wife this season..No matter which you choose!
7.62x39. We hunt in the woods and this caliber is fine in the 200 yards or less range that we take deer at.
25-06 is a good choice. Oter good choices are 243 and 7mm-08. The 7mm-08 would be my choice.
30-06
My wife has a 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser that I made for her. I cut the stock to fit her smaller frame and cut some of the barrel off to lighten it up. And then put a compensator on the barrel because she is recoil shy. And then just so she would know it was exclusively for her and not the boys I inlaid a Susan B Anthony Silver Dollar in the stock. She loves it.
i'd buy her none, because when i did something stupid she might shoot me.
What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?
I want to know cause im planning on getting a revolver for deer hunting.What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?
I'd look at a Ruger or Smith %26amp; Wesson in .44 Magnum. The .357 will do the trick but you're going to have to be dead accurate with the shot unless you fancy chasing a wounded white-tail. The.41 Magnum is a good round, but .44 is more plentiful and available in more variety.
The six-inch barrel will not only give you more muzzle velocity and energy, it will also reduce the recoil and give you a better sighting picture.What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?
Deerslayer, ok here's a question about your question. Are you going to purchase a handgun just to hunt with or a revolver so you can shoot at the range, carry on road trips, have as a backup to a hunting rifle. The reason I ask is I enjoy handgun hunting more than any other type of firearm hunting. I have the 357s, 41, 44s, 45s, and 357 maximum all in different revolvers. But for strictly handgun hunting I have a TC chambered in 7mm/06 with a 14 inch barrel that takes large deer size game down to jack rabbits out to 200 yards. I also have a custom barrel chambered in a wildcat 6.5 x 250 that works great on varmints. If your looking for a handgun hunting only type handgun you might look at some of the single shot pistols on the market that will let you shoot 100 to 150 yards accurately. Good luck and good hunting.
The .44 magnum is the classic choice. However, the .357 magnum, 41 magnum and 10mm with hot loads are also reasonable choices. There are also a lot of more powerful and exotic calibers that I won't mention. But if its got as much or more power than a .357 it will work.
But I think the sweet spot really is the .44 magnum.
I have hunted whitetail with my SW .41 and have had tremendous luck with it. I have also used a .44 with similar results, but the difference in recoil and what you actually get from your round, the .41 outweighs the .44 imho, hands down.
It would be a toss up as to either the .44 magnum or the .45 Colt. Saying that you need to realize I'm not talking about a .45 Colt cowboy load, but a true petal to the metal Ruger, Casull, T/C Contender load. Something with a muzzle velocity over 900 fps.
Take a look at the link below;
Any of these calibers within 50 yards; the 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, and the 44 Magnum.* Use a 6 inch barrel with adjustable sights.* Or mount a scope on it.* Recommend Smith %26amp; Wesson or Ruger Brand.*
Overall, I'd say 44 Magnum. I use 41 Magnum and heavy-loaded 45 Colt, too, but they give up a little something for general use. And I'm one who wouldn't include 357 Magnum in the mix at all. You can, of course, go for one of the huge bangers, but there's really no need for them.
357 mag as a minimum out of a 6 inch barrel inside 50 yards
I use a Ruger 30 carbine revolver but that is a small rifle round and is great for inside 50 yards.
I use a 6'; Dan Wesson .357 and it worked the one time in 4 years that I got close enough to a deer to shoot at it.
You'll need at least a .357 Magnum, or better yet a .41 or .44 Magnum if you can handle them. Use the heaviest hollow point ammo you can get.
I agree with those who say 357 Magnum or bigger. Use a gun with at least a 6'; barrel and ammo with a grain weight of at least 180 grains if using 357.
I would look into the .41 Magnum. In my opinion, it is the best hunting caliber ever made.
41mag. taurus tracker using premium cast bullets or a .44mag revolver
i would want a .41 Magnum or .44 Magnum, but the minimum would be a .357 Mag
Have to agree .357 magnum or bigger.
I'd look at a Ruger or Smith %26amp; Wesson in .44 Magnum. The .357 will do the trick but you're going to have to be dead accurate with the shot unless you fancy chasing a wounded white-tail. The.41 Magnum is a good round, but .44 is more plentiful and available in more variety.
The six-inch barrel will not only give you more muzzle velocity and energy, it will also reduce the recoil and give you a better sighting picture.What is the best handgun caliber for white-tailed deer?
Deerslayer, ok here's a question about your question. Are you going to purchase a handgun just to hunt with or a revolver so you can shoot at the range, carry on road trips, have as a backup to a hunting rifle. The reason I ask is I enjoy handgun hunting more than any other type of firearm hunting. I have the 357s, 41, 44s, 45s, and 357 maximum all in different revolvers. But for strictly handgun hunting I have a TC chambered in 7mm/06 with a 14 inch barrel that takes large deer size game down to jack rabbits out to 200 yards. I also have a custom barrel chambered in a wildcat 6.5 x 250 that works great on varmints. If your looking for a handgun hunting only type handgun you might look at some of the single shot pistols on the market that will let you shoot 100 to 150 yards accurately. Good luck and good hunting.
The .44 magnum is the classic choice. However, the .357 magnum, 41 magnum and 10mm with hot loads are also reasonable choices. There are also a lot of more powerful and exotic calibers that I won't mention. But if its got as much or more power than a .357 it will work.
But I think the sweet spot really is the .44 magnum.
I have hunted whitetail with my SW .41 and have had tremendous luck with it. I have also used a .44 with similar results, but the difference in recoil and what you actually get from your round, the .41 outweighs the .44 imho, hands down.
It would be a toss up as to either the .44 magnum or the .45 Colt. Saying that you need to realize I'm not talking about a .45 Colt cowboy load, but a true petal to the metal Ruger, Casull, T/C Contender load. Something with a muzzle velocity over 900 fps.
Take a look at the link below;
Any of these calibers within 50 yards; the 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, and the 44 Magnum.* Use a 6 inch barrel with adjustable sights.* Or mount a scope on it.* Recommend Smith %26amp; Wesson or Ruger Brand.*
Overall, I'd say 44 Magnum. I use 41 Magnum and heavy-loaded 45 Colt, too, but they give up a little something for general use. And I'm one who wouldn't include 357 Magnum in the mix at all. You can, of course, go for one of the huge bangers, but there's really no need for them.
357 mag as a minimum out of a 6 inch barrel inside 50 yards
I use a Ruger 30 carbine revolver but that is a small rifle round and is great for inside 50 yards.
I use a 6'; Dan Wesson .357 and it worked the one time in 4 years that I got close enough to a deer to shoot at it.
You'll need at least a .357 Magnum, or better yet a .41 or .44 Magnum if you can handle them. Use the heaviest hollow point ammo you can get.
I agree with those who say 357 Magnum or bigger. Use a gun with at least a 6'; barrel and ammo with a grain weight of at least 180 grains if using 357.
I would look into the .41 Magnum. In my opinion, it is the best hunting caliber ever made.
41mag. taurus tracker using premium cast bullets or a .44mag revolver
i would want a .41 Magnum or .44 Magnum, but the minimum would be a .357 Mag
Have to agree .357 magnum or bigger.
Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?
Also, I have been considering Thinsulate coats, does anyone have any thoughts about them?Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?
Coveralls or bib and jacket with layers.Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?
A decent jacket that sells very well in Illinois is Carhart. Most, if not all Carhart's have a layer of Gor-tek inside of them, which is water repellent...keeps you dry during snowy season. I wouldn't recommend getting them at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's however; they're quite expensive. You'd be better off going to Farm %26amp; Fleet...you can get a decent Carhart jacket there for about $70. If you go to Cabela's, you'd probably wind up paying out about $130-$150.
My recommendation is not from Cableas but Bass Pro Shops carries a Red Head Boned Dry Cold Weather system that I own and it is awesome. There is a lighter jacket that zips in to a parka. So on mild days you can just wear the inner jacket but on cold days you have one bad coat. I have hunted in really cold conditions with this set up and it works better than anything else. Pants are great too.
Go with layers. Maybe an oversized camo sweatshirt to go over regular clothing,for decent weather,then a large jacket with removable liner for various temperature changes. I have heavy gear but find it hot unless it`s -30 or - 40. there are many brands to chose from.
I have and use the Carhart with the quilted arctic insulation, it's almost too warm sometimes.
Cabelas MT 050 Coat with separate polar tec base i stay dry and warm up here in Michigan
Coveralls or bib and jacket with layers.Can anyone recommend a warm coat from Cabelas for deer hunting during the winter in Southern Illinois?
A decent jacket that sells very well in Illinois is Carhart. Most, if not all Carhart's have a layer of Gor-tek inside of them, which is water repellent...keeps you dry during snowy season. I wouldn't recommend getting them at Bass Pro Shops or Cabela's however; they're quite expensive. You'd be better off going to Farm %26amp; Fleet...you can get a decent Carhart jacket there for about $70. If you go to Cabela's, you'd probably wind up paying out about $130-$150.
My recommendation is not from Cableas but Bass Pro Shops carries a Red Head Boned Dry Cold Weather system that I own and it is awesome. There is a lighter jacket that zips in to a parka. So on mild days you can just wear the inner jacket but on cold days you have one bad coat. I have hunted in really cold conditions with this set up and it works better than anything else. Pants are great too.
Go with layers. Maybe an oversized camo sweatshirt to go over regular clothing,for decent weather,then a large jacket with removable liner for various temperature changes. I have heavy gear but find it hot unless it`s -30 or - 40. there are many brands to chose from.
I have and use the Carhart with the quilted arctic insulation, it's almost too warm sometimes.
Cabelas MT 050 Coat with separate polar tec base i stay dry and warm up here in Michigan
Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?
What is it called? how much is it?Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?
they have ones that send them directly to your computer/laptop, I do notk now of ones sending them to your phone.Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?
Hello, to answer your question.....YES there are several. The question is how much do you want to spend? Try these out....CellularEye, cellular-scout cs-05, e-buckmail, and Buckeye cam. You are going to spend from $600-$2000.
Hope this helps you out. Deerkiller29
i doubt it- that would require the camera to have a tremendous battery supply and internet access or at least messaging capability
Not yet but they are working on one that will not only take the picture of the deer but will shoot it for you, then skin it, field dress it and then call and let you know where to pick it up. No really!! Have I ever lied to you before?
they have ones that send them directly to your computer/laptop, I do notk now of ones sending them to your phone.Is there a deer scouting camera that sends the pictures directly to your phone?
Hello, to answer your question.....YES there are several. The question is how much do you want to spend? Try these out....CellularEye, cellular-scout cs-05, e-buckmail, and Buckeye cam. You are going to spend from $600-$2000.
Hope this helps you out. Deerkiller29
i doubt it- that would require the camera to have a tremendous battery supply and internet access or at least messaging capability
Not yet but they are working on one that will not only take the picture of the deer but will shoot it for you, then skin it, field dress it and then call and let you know where to pick it up. No really!! Have I ever lied to you before?
How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?
I'm now 25 years old and have never had anything close to an accident. So naturally I carry liability only insurance for my automobile. Well 2 nights ago I hit a deer on the way home causing moderate front end damage to the car. How ';illegal'; would it be if I were to add comprehensive insurance to my policy, then wait a few days and make a claim?How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?
There are tons of websites where you can get a free insurance quote. http://www.lowestquoteonline.info/Auto-I鈥?/a> It only takes a few minutes to do.How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?
Yes it is illegal and is a fraud. When you hit a deer, you need to have the comprehensive coverage in order to claim insurance and should inform your insurance agent or insurance company about the incident. In some cases, the insurance rates could go up after making the claim with the insurance company. So to get the best monetary benefit or claim, you need to know how to handle your insurance claim.
DANGER MR. ROBINSON鈥?DANGER! This is a huge red flag. Insurance Co鈥檚 have automatic alerts set for cases just like this. If the insurance co lets you add the comp coverage without an inspection, making a claim shortly after adding the coverage will trigger a red flag. Bigger ins co's have fraud units especially design to go after fraudulent claims. Those Co's have in house litigation teams that will go after you heavily. You鈥檒l pay more in court cost than it cost you to fix the car. Sell the deer meat to pay for the damages. I'm sure there's a hungry backwoods family that will pay you top dollar for a battered Bambi.
In addition to all the responses below, this would be a ';red flag'; to the adjuster that was assigned to your claim. They can see any changes you've made in coverage and they would likely have the special investigations unit (they investigate insurance fraud) investigate your claim.
I don't think you're the first to think of it. Therefore the insurance company adjusters or fraud department would probably be suspicious if you made a claim a few days after getting insurance. Insurance fraud is not something you want to get nailed with.
If the damage is moderate, I would suggest making the repairs out of pocket and not even bother with your insurance. Making the claim will more than likely make your insurance rate go up, and stay at that higher rate for 3 years.
Whatever you added to your insurance would cover from that day forward, not in the past. If you made a claim for an accident during the time you weren't covered, it would be fraudulent. Insurance adjusters are quite good at uncovering fraudulent claims. I wouldn't try it.
That's called ';insurance fraud';, and in most states, it's illegal enough to be considered a felony. You can damn well bet if you make a claim a few days after increasing your coverage, the insurance company WILL investigate you.
its called fraud/its indictable and carrys a felony prosecution/usually when you apply for collision you need to get pictures of the car before it becomes insured/comp has nothing to do with collision what your damage will be classified/good thinking to become a criminal wow
adding that type of coverage usually involves the car being inspected by an agent before it gets accepted, did you think you were the first person who thought of that? as for how illegal it would be?...come onnnn, do I need to explain that to you?
If the question is legality, then it is very illegal.
However you won't be the first person doing it. It is highly unlikely if you will be send behind bars and stuff like that. If you have to do it, then advise is be extra cautious.
Do yourself a favor, and fix it yourself. For what you are about too try to do will not work . Thy will have you bring your car to them ,So thy can check for any dings you may have before thy Insure you.
Highly illegal.
It's called insurance fraud.
It's a felony.
Extremely. Felony insurance fraud. Potentially several years in prison. Less serious than murder. No death penalty.
Very illegal.
It is called insurance fraud.
People go to jail all the time for it.
That would be insurance fraud. You may get away with it or maybe not.
There are tons of websites where you can get a free insurance quote. http://www.lowestquoteonline.info/Auto-I鈥?/a> It only takes a few minutes to do.How ';illegal'; would it be to add comprehensive auto insurance a day after hitting a deer, then making a claim?
Yes it is illegal and is a fraud. When you hit a deer, you need to have the comprehensive coverage in order to claim insurance and should inform your insurance agent or insurance company about the incident. In some cases, the insurance rates could go up after making the claim with the insurance company. So to get the best monetary benefit or claim, you need to know how to handle your insurance claim.
DANGER MR. ROBINSON鈥?DANGER! This is a huge red flag. Insurance Co鈥檚 have automatic alerts set for cases just like this. If the insurance co lets you add the comp coverage without an inspection, making a claim shortly after adding the coverage will trigger a red flag. Bigger ins co's have fraud units especially design to go after fraudulent claims. Those Co's have in house litigation teams that will go after you heavily. You鈥檒l pay more in court cost than it cost you to fix the car. Sell the deer meat to pay for the damages. I'm sure there's a hungry backwoods family that will pay you top dollar for a battered Bambi.
In addition to all the responses below, this would be a ';red flag'; to the adjuster that was assigned to your claim. They can see any changes you've made in coverage and they would likely have the special investigations unit (they investigate insurance fraud) investigate your claim.
I don't think you're the first to think of it. Therefore the insurance company adjusters or fraud department would probably be suspicious if you made a claim a few days after getting insurance. Insurance fraud is not something you want to get nailed with.
If the damage is moderate, I would suggest making the repairs out of pocket and not even bother with your insurance. Making the claim will more than likely make your insurance rate go up, and stay at that higher rate for 3 years.
Whatever you added to your insurance would cover from that day forward, not in the past. If you made a claim for an accident during the time you weren't covered, it would be fraudulent. Insurance adjusters are quite good at uncovering fraudulent claims. I wouldn't try it.
That's called ';insurance fraud';, and in most states, it's illegal enough to be considered a felony. You can damn well bet if you make a claim a few days after increasing your coverage, the insurance company WILL investigate you.
its called fraud/its indictable and carrys a felony prosecution/usually when you apply for collision you need to get pictures of the car before it becomes insured/comp has nothing to do with collision what your damage will be classified/good thinking to become a criminal wow
adding that type of coverage usually involves the car being inspected by an agent before it gets accepted, did you think you were the first person who thought of that? as for how illegal it would be?...come onnnn, do I need to explain that to you?
If the question is legality, then it is very illegal.
However you won't be the first person doing it. It is highly unlikely if you will be send behind bars and stuff like that. If you have to do it, then advise is be extra cautious.
Do yourself a favor, and fix it yourself. For what you are about too try to do will not work . Thy will have you bring your car to them ,So thy can check for any dings you may have before thy Insure you.
Highly illegal.
It's called insurance fraud.
It's a felony.
Extremely. Felony insurance fraud. Potentially several years in prison. Less serious than murder. No death penalty.
Very illegal.
It is called insurance fraud.
People go to jail all the time for it.
That would be insurance fraud. You may get away with it or maybe not.
What is your deer hunting weapon of choice?
Here is a chance to brag about your favorite hunting firearm.
I use my.........Knight disc extreme .50 muzzleloader with a nikon BDC scope. For those considering the BDC nikon BUY IT i sighted in at 100 yards and decided to test it like they addvertise out at 250 yards and it was only two inches low at 250 AWESOME scope.What is your deer hunting weapon of choice?
its not bragging ...i have only one deer rifle a savage 30-06...What is your deer hunting weapon of choice?
This is what I have and love...
Rifle: Ruger M77 Mark2 .270 walnut stock and blued barrel, w/ 130 grain bullet and a Nikon Buckmaster 3x9 scope.
Muzzleloader: TC Omega Z5 camo composite stock and weathershield barrel TC shockwave 250grain bullets with 100 grains of triple se7en. A cheapo bushnell fixed 4x scope. Looking at getting the Nikon BDC.
I use a 300 Weatherby mag, with a Nikon Buckmasters 4x12x50 scope. It is a great gun. The recoil is quite a bit larger than most but it is extremly accurate and consistant. But the #1 reason I like this rifle is the range. If I want to take a long shot I have the power to back it up. Plus, most of time, there is no tracking required. Drops them in their tracks.
The 300 Weatherby mag has the power to take any game animal in North America.
Where I can use it, a Rem 7600 .30-06. But much of the east and midwest have shotgun only restrictions, so I use an Rem 870 12 ga with rifled barrel.
Very close second is Hoyt Ultra-Tec due to awesome length of bowhunting seasons.
Ruger M77 in .270 calibre. 6x Weaver scope
Wonderful accuracy, gentle on the shoulder and ample stopping power for deer.
Ian M
i use a 50 cal cva wolf mag,,, 100 rain pellet charge and a 245 grain aerotip powerbelt shot 4 times 4 dead deer ok thanks eddie,, also a nikkon recoil proof t/c scope
So far: A rifle; specifically a Remington 700 ADL purchased new in 1974 for less than $120 US in .25-06 Remington.
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Bow %26amp; Arrow, Remington 30-06 or 30-30 Marlin, 357 Magnum Smith %26amp; Wesson Revolver.*
Maverick M2A1 Automatic Firing Rifle
crossbow......horton team realtree 175
I use a CVA Wolf 50 cal. muzzleloader.
I use my.........Knight disc extreme .50 muzzleloader with a nikon BDC scope. For those considering the BDC nikon BUY IT i sighted in at 100 yards and decided to test it like they addvertise out at 250 yards and it was only two inches low at 250 AWESOME scope.What is your deer hunting weapon of choice?
its not bragging ...i have only one deer rifle a savage 30-06...What is your deer hunting weapon of choice?
This is what I have and love...
Rifle: Ruger M77 Mark2 .270 walnut stock and blued barrel, w/ 130 grain bullet and a Nikon Buckmaster 3x9 scope.
Muzzleloader: TC Omega Z5 camo composite stock and weathershield barrel TC shockwave 250grain bullets with 100 grains of triple se7en. A cheapo bushnell fixed 4x scope. Looking at getting the Nikon BDC.
I use a 300 Weatherby mag, with a Nikon Buckmasters 4x12x50 scope. It is a great gun. The recoil is quite a bit larger than most but it is extremly accurate and consistant. But the #1 reason I like this rifle is the range. If I want to take a long shot I have the power to back it up. Plus, most of time, there is no tracking required. Drops them in their tracks.
The 300 Weatherby mag has the power to take any game animal in North America.
Where I can use it, a Rem 7600 .30-06. But much of the east and midwest have shotgun only restrictions, so I use an Rem 870 12 ga with rifled barrel.
Very close second is Hoyt Ultra-Tec due to awesome length of bowhunting seasons.
Ruger M77 in .270 calibre. 6x Weaver scope
Wonderful accuracy, gentle on the shoulder and ample stopping power for deer.
Ian M
i use a 50 cal cva wolf mag,,, 100 rain pellet charge and a 245 grain aerotip powerbelt shot 4 times 4 dead deer ok thanks eddie,, also a nikkon recoil proof t/c scope
So far: A rifle; specifically a Remington 700 ADL purchased new in 1974 for less than $120 US in .25-06 Remington.
H
Bow %26amp; Arrow, Remington 30-06 or 30-30 Marlin, 357 Magnum Smith %26amp; Wesson Revolver.*
Maverick M2A1 Automatic Firing Rifle
crossbow......horton team realtree 175
I use a CVA Wolf 50 cal. muzzleloader.
A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
I recently moved to the country area and my garbage can has no lid (County Owned Garbage Can). I ordered a new garbage can, but havent gotten it yet. We have had a problem with something getting into our garbage. I say something because we do have deer in our backyard all the time (I just dont know if they eat garbage or not). So after picking up nasty garbage out of the grass three times, I bought some spray that is suppose to keep dogs and cats away (You have to spray every day and its mostly used to train your own pets, not strays). I also got some twist-tied ';pepper-looking'; things that you hang up to help keep animals away. It worked for a few days. But the day the garbage man came, the garbage was all over the ground again. Any other ideas, except shooting the animals?A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
Along the same lines as the spray you bought, but probably less expensive, would be ammonia. Pour it on the garbage every time you take a bag to the can. It should keep ANY animals away.
I think I would avoid putting food in the garbage bags, if possible, until the new can arrives.A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
raccoons or bears pour a 1/4 cup of house hold ammonia into your garbage can
Put a piece of tin or something like that over the top of the can and weight it down with a concrete block AND spray the ammonia or other deterrent, as well. They also sell those big industrial size cans with the flip top lid at Lowe's. If you buy one, you will have two when the other one comes, but sometimes you need two--especially at Christmas and after other celebrations where there is lots of garbage. Maybe you should just buy one now. Best of luck.
Pine Sol or amonia works. had this problem beore.
Put your ';non-food'; trash (cans, newspapers, etc.) in your trash can with no lid while you wait for your new trash can. Bury all ';food'; trash (banana skins, apple cores, turkey bones, etc.) underground as a temporary measure until the new trash can comes. The ';food'; trash will decompose on its own.
It wouldn't be deer but it could be raccoons. I think some sort of temporary cover - plywood and a big rock or two - would be best thing. Hope that new can comes soon
Probaby you have racoons. Deer will not eat out of garbage, they are vegitarian and eat mostly living things. They also eat acorn and walnuts but not garbage. The powder does seem to have potential but it trains your animals and has to be applied daily. The best defence is the same way you keep animals out of the garden. Use silver pie plates and a good trick is to get one of those funny little caractures that talk or laugh and are set off by movement. It will scare the bejesus out of any animal and does not harm them in any way.
Try sprinkling bleach in the can an late on the garbage. I hared it works.gray hair
Along the same lines as the spray you bought, but probably less expensive, would be ammonia. Pour it on the garbage every time you take a bag to the can. It should keep ANY animals away.
I think I would avoid putting food in the garbage bags, if possible, until the new can arrives.A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
raccoons or bears pour a 1/4 cup of house hold ammonia into your garbage can
Put a piece of tin or something like that over the top of the can and weight it down with a concrete block AND spray the ammonia or other deterrent, as well. They also sell those big industrial size cans with the flip top lid at Lowe's. If you buy one, you will have two when the other one comes, but sometimes you need two--especially at Christmas and after other celebrations where there is lots of garbage. Maybe you should just buy one now. Best of luck.
Pine Sol or amonia works. had this problem beore.
Put your ';non-food'; trash (cans, newspapers, etc.) in your trash can with no lid while you wait for your new trash can. Bury all ';food'; trash (banana skins, apple cores, turkey bones, etc.) underground as a temporary measure until the new trash can comes. The ';food'; trash will decompose on its own.
It wouldn't be deer but it could be raccoons. I think some sort of temporary cover - plywood and a big rock or two - would be best thing. Hope that new can comes soon
Probaby you have racoons. Deer will not eat out of garbage, they are vegitarian and eat mostly living things. They also eat acorn and walnuts but not garbage. The powder does seem to have potential but it trains your animals and has to be applied daily. The best defence is the same way you keep animals out of the garden. Use silver pie plates and a good trick is to get one of those funny little caractures that talk or laugh and are set off by movement. It will scare the bejesus out of any animal and does not harm them in any way.
Try sprinkling bleach in the can an late on the garbage. I hared it works.
Does anyone know any places i can buy Deer meat in Western Australia?
Im just curious ^^ ive been told how tasty it is i wanna try it bad, but we neither have the money or time to fly to America just to try it lol. And im told it can be bought here. The problem is where? You cant get it from the local supermarket... Any ideas?Does anyone know any places i can buy Deer meat in Western Australia?
Maybe try these guys, or ask at any specialty butcher:
My Butcher Lifestyle Foods
Location Shop 2/120 Bussell Highway
Email sueosmo@bigpond.com
Phone +61 8 9757 2313
Fax No +61 8 9757 2313
Mobile 0438 277 264
As the name suggests, personalised customer service with food that fits your lifestyle. A TRADITIONAL BUTCHER SHOP WITH A CONTEMPORARY FOOD TWIST. My butcher prides itself on quality and freshness second to none.
Fresh local fish, homemade sausages, goat, crocodile, kangaroo, rabbits, spatchcocks, homemade smallgoods, organic beef, free range chickens, the list goes on and its all GOOD!!
Our Opening Hours are OPEN 7 DAYS - MONDAY TO SATURDAY 7am to 6pm, SUNDAY 10am to 6 pm
Maybe try these guys, or ask at any specialty butcher:
My Butcher Lifestyle Foods
Location Shop 2/120 Bussell Highway
Email sueosmo@bigpond.com
Phone +61 8 9757 2313
Fax No +61 8 9757 2313
Mobile 0438 277 264
As the name suggests, personalised customer service with food that fits your lifestyle. A TRADITIONAL BUTCHER SHOP WITH A CONTEMPORARY FOOD TWIST. My butcher prides itself on quality and freshness second to none.
Fresh local fish, homemade sausages, goat, crocodile, kangaroo, rabbits, spatchcocks, homemade smallgoods, organic beef, free range chickens, the list goes on and its all GOOD!!
Our Opening Hours are OPEN 7 DAYS - MONDAY TO SATURDAY 7am to 6pm, SUNDAY 10am to 6 pm
What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
I hit a deer once, luckily an ambulance turned up and moved the poor thing to the grass verge. The deer didn't die immediately, although it's wounds were fatal I didn't have the heart to finish it off.What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
I would call for help for the deer. I feel if it could be saved, then I would want that; but, if the deer was in pain, and could'nt be saved I would'nt want it to suffer.What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
put it the boot of the car and take it to the butchers
call the paramedics and have them meet u there with a gurney! jk! call police or somethin so they can remove it from the road, or a veterinarian if it's still alive. have ur car checked over, hitting animals on the road can be very damaging to ur car, not to mention urself!
sling it in the back of your car, if you have a mate who's a butcher, get him to sort it out, if not ,pay someone, venison, hung for a few weeks is really tasty. Years ago onour way home from a night out in my mates car, we hit a sheep it was dead so in the back i went. Luckily his cousin was a butcher, he sorted it for us, according to him it was only about 18 months old, so it tasted o.k. and was tender
i think as they are CROWN PROPERTY (as are swans) you are supposed to call the police and they remove the animal ...maybe to their own freezer, but you can get into trouble knocking one over then picking it up as it can be argued that it was deliberate ..this aslo is the case when knocking over pheasants if you knock it over you cant pick it up but the person behind you can... weird but hey thats england lol
In GB the legal stance is that if you knock down a deer, killing it, you CANNOT keep it.
The next person on the scene has legal claim to the beast, to do with what they please.
if it is the forest area, hand it over to the forest rangers.
Here is the professional answer to this question: If You Hit A Deer Do You ... I hit a deer on a state owned road. Can I get my deductible waived since
Things used to be better. We didn't have any money, but things were better. ..... Get up off this floor, Rose, and put your damned tit back in your dress! ...
Deer oh deer one for the pot
I would call for help for the deer. I feel if it could be saved, then I would want that; but, if the deer was in pain, and could'nt be saved I would'nt want it to suffer.What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
put it the boot of the car and take it to the butchers
call the paramedics and have them meet u there with a gurney! jk! call police or somethin so they can remove it from the road, or a veterinarian if it's still alive. have ur car checked over, hitting animals on the road can be very damaging to ur car, not to mention urself!
sling it in the back of your car, if you have a mate who's a butcher, get him to sort it out, if not ,pay someone, venison, hung for a few weeks is really tasty. Years ago onour way home from a night out in my mates car, we hit a sheep it was dead so in the back i went. Luckily his cousin was a butcher, he sorted it for us, according to him it was only about 18 months old, so it tasted o.k. and was tender
i think as they are CROWN PROPERTY (as are swans) you are supposed to call the police and they remove the animal ...maybe to their own freezer, but you can get into trouble knocking one over then picking it up as it can be argued that it was deliberate ..this aslo is the case when knocking over pheasants if you knock it over you cant pick it up but the person behind you can... weird but hey thats england lol
In GB the legal stance is that if you knock down a deer, killing it, you CANNOT keep it.
The next person on the scene has legal claim to the beast, to do with what they please.
if it is the forest area, hand it over to the forest rangers.
Here is the professional answer to this question: If You Hit A Deer Do You ... I hit a deer on a state owned road. Can I get my deductible waived since
Things used to be better. We didn't have any money, but things were better. ..... Get up off this floor, Rose, and put your damned tit back in your dress! ...
Deer oh deer one for the pot
Can you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
Am trying to find info on current hunting laws in GA and i can not find any website. I am wondering if it is legal to hunt with an SKS in Georgia. OR do you have to have a 5 round clip. Wouldnt that be illegal since you modified the weapon ?Can you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
just dont load it with more than the law allowsCan you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
I live in Roswell Georgia and here's the deal, the limit on our magazine capacity is 6 rounds, but you can carry as many 6 round clips as you like. It's still perfectly legal to use a non-factory magazine, since we don't have restrictions on that topic, and the SKS is legal, too. I have heard that some areas have restrictions on what caliber you can use on certain game, and I haven't heard of the 7.62 or .308 being banned anywhere in GA.
I have no idea about how many rounds your gun can hold in GA, but if you just switch magazines to a lower capacity one, that's not illegal. You could also just buy a 5 round magazine plug, designed precisely for this situation.
If you're unsure, just pick up the phone and call the DNR!!
Wat odds,one bullet is enough,the other rounds is only for if you get lost,lol---if you need 10 rounds in a gun stay home and go shoppin with the wife.
Looks like the Peta crowd made a visit according to the thumbs down.lol,if we all lost our appetite then perhaps they would be happy.
I have hunted in some 30 states and have never found one yet that allows more than a 5 shot capacity on big game...
check your laws its usually a 5 round capacity
No, six is the limit.
yes you are allowed to do that
just dont load it with more than the law allowsCan you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
I live in Roswell Georgia and here's the deal, the limit on our magazine capacity is 6 rounds, but you can carry as many 6 round clips as you like. It's still perfectly legal to use a non-factory magazine, since we don't have restrictions on that topic, and the SKS is legal, too. I have heard that some areas have restrictions on what caliber you can use on certain game, and I haven't heard of the 7.62 or .308 being banned anywhere in GA.
I have no idea about how many rounds your gun can hold in GA, but if you just switch magazines to a lower capacity one, that's not illegal. You could also just buy a 5 round magazine plug, designed precisely for this situation.
If you're unsure, just pick up the phone and call the DNR!!
Wat odds,one bullet is enough,the other rounds is only for if you get lost,lol---if you need 10 rounds in a gun stay home and go shoppin with the wife.
Looks like the Peta crowd made a visit according to the thumbs down.lol,if we all lost our appetite then perhaps they would be happy.
I have hunted in some 30 states and have never found one yet that allows more than a 5 shot capacity on big game...
check your laws its usually a 5 round capacity
No, six is the limit.
yes you are allowed to do that
Where is the best Place to hunt Whitetail deer in the Nebraska area?
New to the area, also new to hunting in general and am looking for good advice and tips for hunting the area.Where is the best Place to hunt Whitetail deer in the Nebraska area?
The Nebraska 'area'? Do you have any idea how big Nebraska is? Narrowing it down might help- there are great hunting places all across the state.
The Nebraska 'area'? Do you have any idea how big Nebraska is? Narrowing it down might help- there are great hunting places all across the state.
How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
Do you think one could cut up deer,or have it ground..bones and all and feed it to our dogs? Also what about old,freezer burnt,or spoiled meat..Is it still feedable?
I have read a lot about feeding chicken to dogs but is turkey just as good?
Thank you!How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
Nothing wrong with feeding your dog Deer or old freezer burnt meat. BUT spoiled no not at all although a dogs stomach can handle most bacterias if not immune it could get sick and die. As far as the ground bones i would not recommend this as it may have sharp edge's that could cut up the dogs insides.How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
you have to put this into perspective, dogs evolved over thousands of generations to process raw meat, they are carnivores that love meat of any kind. Deer is great because they would have hunted this animal in the wild.
To all of you who only want your dogs to eat Science diet or some crap like that, think about this. The oldest dog on record is a 30 year old RAW FED dog in Australia. and tens of thousands of generations of evolution and natural selection easily Trump the one hundred year history of dry dog food.
Deer meat is fine, go easy on the A1 sauce, JK
Deer meat, fine... as long as it doesn't have that ';mad cow'; disease that deer/elk get.
Old/freezer burnt, is not good.
Turkey, just as good as chicken. however, do not give them the bones.
The meat is fine, but CWD has infiltrated the deer population even worse that BSE has infiltrated the cow population.
Dogs LOVE wild meat, go for it. I feed a raw diet, and my dogs love moose meat better than beef.
Deer meat is okay for dogs. (I actually prefer venison over beef for my own food as well. It's leaner and I like the taste better.)
The dog food I feed has deer meat in it (I know you're refering to raw though): http://www.merrickpetcare.com/store/deta鈥?/a>
Turkey and chicken are also both okay.
Deer do have parasites inside of them. I remember one of our neighbors gave his lab some raw meat from a deer he had killed the week before and the dog got sick. Consider giving your dog cooked meat only, the bones aren't that nutrional that it needs to be added, also could cause intestional damages. Nobody should eat spoiled meat including a dog but freezer burnt isn't going to make them sick but they might not eat it if it tastes funny.
Personally I wouldn't give my dog a turkey because of the crap they feed them. /think about their size/
Venison is great, however, they still need the ';bones %26amp; cartalige'; tissues. Freezer ';burnt'; is ok.
But that's just my opinion.
Late Entry : Wilfredo, I do admire your optimism :)))
I know raw feeders give their dogs deer meat, but I've always been a little skeptical for fear of parasites and haven't tried it. Old, freezer burnt meat is fine, never spoiled meat (why take a chance?) Turkey is fine, I feed it regularly.
Dogs should not be fed raw meat of any kind. They have been domesticated and their abliity to process raw meat is not like it once was. Check with your Vet.
i really don't recommended you ,if you ask a vet he will tell you the same, if you buy a high quality dog food like royal canine your dog will be really healthy but if what you want is natural dog food buy organic dog food or natural dog food if you feed your dog raw food by the time your dog may get sick.
high quality dog food in pet stores is made by professionals vets, breeders etc. and they contain the exact amount of proteins,vitamins and minerals for your dog to stay healthy
I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I HAD HAVE DOGS FOR 13 EYERS AND I HAVE TRIED ALL KINDS OF DIETS INCLUDING RAW DIET AND HIGH QUALITY DOG FOOD IS WHAT IT HAS WORKED BETTER.
I have read a lot about feeding chicken to dogs but is turkey just as good?
Thank you!How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
Nothing wrong with feeding your dog Deer or old freezer burnt meat. BUT spoiled no not at all although a dogs stomach can handle most bacterias if not immune it could get sick and die. As far as the ground bones i would not recommend this as it may have sharp edge's that could cut up the dogs insides.How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
you have to put this into perspective, dogs evolved over thousands of generations to process raw meat, they are carnivores that love meat of any kind. Deer is great because they would have hunted this animal in the wild.
To all of you who only want your dogs to eat Science diet or some crap like that, think about this. The oldest dog on record is a 30 year old RAW FED dog in Australia. and tens of thousands of generations of evolution and natural selection easily Trump the one hundred year history of dry dog food.
Deer meat is fine, go easy on the A1 sauce, JK
Deer meat, fine... as long as it doesn't have that ';mad cow'; disease that deer/elk get.
Old/freezer burnt, is not good.
Turkey, just as good as chicken. however, do not give them the bones.
The meat is fine, but CWD has infiltrated the deer population even worse that BSE has infiltrated the cow population.
Dogs LOVE wild meat, go for it. I feed a raw diet, and my dogs love moose meat better than beef.
Deer meat is okay for dogs. (I actually prefer venison over beef for my own food as well. It's leaner and I like the taste better.)
The dog food I feed has deer meat in it (I know you're refering to raw though): http://www.merrickpetcare.com/store/deta鈥?/a>
Turkey and chicken are also both okay.
Deer do have parasites inside of them. I remember one of our neighbors gave his lab some raw meat from a deer he had killed the week before and the dog got sick. Consider giving your dog cooked meat only, the bones aren't that nutrional that it needs to be added, also could cause intestional damages. Nobody should eat spoiled meat including a dog but freezer burnt isn't going to make them sick but they might not eat it if it tastes funny.
Personally I wouldn't give my dog a turkey because of the crap they feed them. /think about their size/
Venison is great, however, they still need the ';bones %26amp; cartalige'; tissues. Freezer ';burnt'; is ok.
But that's just my opinion.
Late Entry : Wilfredo, I do admire your optimism :)))
I know raw feeders give their dogs deer meat, but I've always been a little skeptical for fear of parasites and haven't tried it. Old, freezer burnt meat is fine, never spoiled meat (why take a chance?) Turkey is fine, I feed it regularly.
Dogs should not be fed raw meat of any kind. They have been domesticated and their abliity to process raw meat is not like it once was. Check with your Vet.
i really don't recommended you ,if you ask a vet he will tell you the same, if you buy a high quality dog food like royal canine your dog will be really healthy but if what you want is natural dog food buy organic dog food or natural dog food if you feed your dog raw food by the time your dog may get sick.
high quality dog food in pet stores is made by professionals vets, breeders etc. and they contain the exact amount of proteins,vitamins and minerals for your dog to stay healthy
I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I HAD HAVE DOGS FOR 13 EYERS AND I HAVE TRIED ALL KINDS OF DIETS INCLUDING RAW DIET AND HIGH QUALITY DOG FOOD IS WHAT IT HAS WORKED BETTER.
Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
He snacks on it whenever he can find it. I'm not really sure why though. He eats Innova dog food. Could it have something to do with colder weather?Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
Nothing to do with diet, nothing to do with lacking nutrients or lacking minerals, and absolutely nothing to do with weather. Dogs will be dogs! The grosser the object, the more they want to rub on it, roll in it, and eat it.
I would try to discourage this behavior or make huge efforts to avoid the situation if possible. Deers are carriers of Leptospirosis and Judge can certainly become infected.Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
Deer droppings are tasty little morsels to any dog... so are rabbit pellets and even cat poop. Some of it is because when a dog smells something they analyze the scent and identify each and every component of it, they discover that the droppings are nutrient rich and therefore consider it food. All dogs will do it if given the chance. All animal droppings can contain parasites, so I would discourage my dog with a ';Leave it';.
The eating of droppings ect is usually a deficency in vitaimins and nutriants, this does not mean you arent feeding him right it just means the vit ect are not properly balanced in his body you can by vits ect from your local vet or pet shop, they can be as treats, to put in water or as tablets treats work best.
Dogs just have a natural tendency towards eating droppings. (mine personally prefers goose poop-in bulk). The deer probably has something to do with the residual deer smell. You're feeding a really good food, so no worries about bad nutrition. Just keep him on a tight leash!gray hair
Nothing to do with diet, nothing to do with lacking nutrients or lacking minerals, and absolutely nothing to do with weather. Dogs will be dogs! The grosser the object, the more they want to rub on it, roll in it, and eat it.
I would try to discourage this behavior or make huge efforts to avoid the situation if possible. Deers are carriers of Leptospirosis and Judge can certainly become infected.Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
Deer droppings are tasty little morsels to any dog... so are rabbit pellets and even cat poop. Some of it is because when a dog smells something they analyze the scent and identify each and every component of it, they discover that the droppings are nutrient rich and therefore consider it food. All dogs will do it if given the chance. All animal droppings can contain parasites, so I would discourage my dog with a ';Leave it';.
The eating of droppings ect is usually a deficency in vitaimins and nutriants, this does not mean you arent feeding him right it just means the vit ect are not properly balanced in his body you can by vits ect from your local vet or pet shop, they can be as treats, to put in water or as tablets treats work best.
Dogs just have a natural tendency towards eating droppings. (mine personally prefers goose poop-in bulk). The deer probably has something to do with the residual deer smell. You're feeding a really good food, so no worries about bad nutrition. Just keep him on a tight leash!
Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
I am looking for a picture with a deer and horse togther. Does anyone know where I could find one?Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
Try a search on google images.Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
any goodwill store should have this.
Try typing ';hose and dog'; into the image search in either yahoo search or google... hope that helps.
on the internet......DUH!!!!!!
yes just go search on yahoo images. they have a lot of pictures there
I would shoot for a goodwill.
go to ask.com and type it into images they have any pic ur looken for.
I found a Picture
Click the link below
Try a search on google images.Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
any goodwill store should have this.
Try typing ';hose and dog'; into the image search in either yahoo search or google... hope that helps.
on the internet......DUH!!!!!!
yes just go search on yahoo images. they have a lot of pictures there
I would shoot for a goodwill.
go to ask.com and type it into images they have any pic ur looken for.
I found a Picture
Click the link below
How long does it take to butcher a deer?
Total time from field dressing to closing the lid on the freezer. Not including the time to drag it out of the woods and drive home of course.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
1-2 hours depending if I let it hang over night. If I am doing it in the dark or the deers age.
I once killed a management doe that was the size of a small horse. She took a long time 3-4 hours. I'm 6'3'; 260lbs and I could not lift her in the truck. That was the biggest body deer I had ever seen.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
You really also need to ask the type of butchering your doing. Are you taking the mussel sections apart and removing the silver skin then wrapping it. Are you butchering it like a swine or beef with a bandsaw cutting your steaks up and grinding the rest. Or are you just going to grind the whole thing and wrapping it up.
I seen a professional Chef from Purdue University do it the German way taking each mussel group apart with a knife and removing silver skin along the way. This took about a hour and a half for half a deer. of course this was part of a class and it might be sped up to an hour for a half (2 hour for a deer). Last year youth early deer season was a hot day and when my young hunter got a deer we hurried to get it checked and butchered. We saved the tenderloin and loin, but ground the rest took less than an hour with three of us working and a commercial grinder. Still had to wrap it after that.
Takes me about an hour total time, that includes, field dressing, skinning, deboning, cutting steaks, cubes, and grinding. You should look on youtube to see how to do it, there is a good couple of videos by someone called williescountrymeats . It does a really good showing you how to do it. I think this will help you out a great deal. Here I found the 1st video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYGBNDc_鈥?/a>
Watch the whole series, and you can really learn a lot.
Happy Hunting.
first time ...hours... just holding the manual open to the right page as you follow along will eat up 45 minutes.
a couple of hours if you have done it before. About half a day to clean up your carport if you forgot to bring a load of sawdust home to work over.
I drive mine over to the meat locker in town... $50 bucks it all wrapped the way I asked and flash frozen.
5-10mins for field dress then depending on number of people and equipment to skin the deer and chop it and wrap it and mark all the pieces in clean environment. About 30mins for a good butcher to do it.
Probably around a half an hour dressing it... sectioning probably takes a good half hour also (I like to divvy up the ';good'; parts from the ';tasty'; parts...). It depends on where I am, and how ';hot'; I feel that day.
well it takes about 10 mintes to field dress a deer. And will vary in time in how you butcher the deer, what cuts of meat, deerburger, etc.
Anywhere between 30 minutes to a few hours. Depends on your experience, etc..
1-2 hours depending if I let it hang over night. If I am doing it in the dark or the deers age.
I once killed a management doe that was the size of a small horse. She took a long time 3-4 hours. I'm 6'3'; 260lbs and I could not lift her in the truck. That was the biggest body deer I had ever seen.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
You really also need to ask the type of butchering your doing. Are you taking the mussel sections apart and removing the silver skin then wrapping it. Are you butchering it like a swine or beef with a bandsaw cutting your steaks up and grinding the rest. Or are you just going to grind the whole thing and wrapping it up.
I seen a professional Chef from Purdue University do it the German way taking each mussel group apart with a knife and removing silver skin along the way. This took about a hour and a half for half a deer. of course this was part of a class and it might be sped up to an hour for a half (2 hour for a deer). Last year youth early deer season was a hot day and when my young hunter got a deer we hurried to get it checked and butchered. We saved the tenderloin and loin, but ground the rest took less than an hour with three of us working and a commercial grinder. Still had to wrap it after that.
Takes me about an hour total time, that includes, field dressing, skinning, deboning, cutting steaks, cubes, and grinding. You should look on youtube to see how to do it, there is a good couple of videos by someone called williescountrymeats . It does a really good showing you how to do it. I think this will help you out a great deal. Here I found the 1st video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYGBNDc_鈥?/a>
Watch the whole series, and you can really learn a lot.
Happy Hunting.
first time ...hours... just holding the manual open to the right page as you follow along will eat up 45 minutes.
a couple of hours if you have done it before. About half a day to clean up your carport if you forgot to bring a load of sawdust home to work over.
I drive mine over to the meat locker in town... $50 bucks it all wrapped the way I asked and flash frozen.
5-10mins for field dress then depending on number of people and equipment to skin the deer and chop it and wrap it and mark all the pieces in clean environment. About 30mins for a good butcher to do it.
Probably around a half an hour dressing it... sectioning probably takes a good half hour also (I like to divvy up the ';good'; parts from the ';tasty'; parts...). It depends on where I am, and how ';hot'; I feel that day.
well it takes about 10 mintes to field dress a deer. And will vary in time in how you butcher the deer, what cuts of meat, deerburger, etc.
Anywhere between 30 minutes to a few hours. Depends on your experience, etc..
What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
Just was wondering how about i goto purchase my first hunting rifle for deer season and whats a good start out model.What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
Most all hunters that I grew up with in Texas started out with a .243 Rem or Win fitted with a 3X9 scope. It's a very flat shooting round with little recoil.
All you need is a record free from felony convictions and a few hundred dollars.What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
the 30-30 is the classic deer hunter starter rifle, it will do the job.
I am unsure of the laws and requirements of purchasing a firearm in Texas, so I can not speak too intelligently on that.
As to what type of rifle to buy鈥?br>
Rifles are very personal things. Some people prefer bolt actions, some lever actions, etc.. I would highly recommend going to a gun shop and trying a few different rifles to see what feels good to you. Personally, I am a Remington 700 fan (I love their Mountain rifle in the 700). However, I have rifles of almost every action (single shot is the only type I do not own yet鈥lans are in the works though). I have enjoyed shooting and hunting with them all. Some are better than others. If I am going to be hunting through heavy brush, I like a short lever action as they handle well and it is easy to get a quick shot off. If I am hunting from a stand or blind, I like a longer rifle.
I have found bolt action rifles to be pretty accurate with whatever type of ammo I shoot through it. Pump actions are pretty forgiving as well, but mine still has some ammo it just doesn鈥檛 shoot well. Semi-autos seem to be very picky and mine only shoots one load consistently well. Lever actions tend to be the most inaccurate (at least for me). If I can put 5 shots within a 3 inch group at 100 meters, I am happy (3 inches is terrible for me鈥ood for others, but I have had years of shooting behind me).
If you have unlimited funds, I like the Sako 75 Finnlight series. They are light and well fitting. One of these will put you back at least a grand ($1400 is the most expensive I鈥檝e seen one for) and I have heard of waits over a year for Sako rifles. If you are on a moderate budget, Browning, Remington, Winchester, and Ruger all make nice rifles. I have shot them all. Personally, I prefer Browning, Remington, Ruger, and Winchester in that order. There is nothing wrong with a Winchester, I just never cared for them. If you are on a strict budget, Savage makes a rifle/scope package that sells at most Wal-Marts for about $400. While I have not shot a modern Savage, I hear excellent things about them.
What cartridge to buy is a tough subject. Which cartridge depends on your shooting experience, your size, future hunting plans, etc鈥?br>
If this were the only rifle you planned on buying, I鈥檇 recommend a 30-06 Springfield. It is by far the most popular cartridge on the planet. There is a huge selection of factory ammo. The cartridge can be used for anything from groundhogs to big brown bear (with some patience and good shot placement). The recoil is a little much if you are a beginning shooter or are a small person. I wouldn鈥檛 use this as a starter rifle, only if you have some shooting experience.
If you are brand new to the world of shooting, I鈥檇 recommend one of the following:
243 Win (95 grain bullet or higher...great ammo availability, very low recoil)
257 Roberts (a great round, but ammo and rifles can be hard to find)
6.5x55 Swede (a great compromise between power and recoil...ammo availability is a little lacking but it can still be found pretty easily)
7mm-08 (This is an all around great round. The recoil is starting to get on the higher side for a beginning rifle, but still very tolerable. Ammo is widely available and the cartridge can be used on anything up to about elk sized game...and even elk of you are careful)
30-30 Win (a tried and true deer round. Rifles are abundant and can be bought used for cheap. Effective range is limited due to the flat point bullets required, but that is now changing with a new type of ammo called Leverelution (I think)...a great beginner round)
7.62x39mm (a round mainly known for use in the AK-47. Sport rifles are a little hard to come by, but they are out there. The round is on the low end for deer, but for shot out to 100 to 150 yards, I'd feel comfortable with it. Just make sure you have a good clean shot to the vitals...I wouldn't trust this round to penetrate much bone)
35 Remington (this is getting to the higher end of the recoil spectrum for a beginners rifle. The round is slow and something I'd recommend for short range only. This isn't something I'd recommend, but if you can find one for cheap, it may be one to consider)
If I were to own one gun, I鈥檇 opt for a 35 Whelen. Short of large African game, it can take out pretty much anything. The cons of the cartridge is that ammo is not readily available and recoil is a little stiff (not terrible, but it can get your attention).
Good luck. Happy hunting
I would start with a 16 guague.
Last question first: To purchase a gun in Texas (even a long gun) you have to be an adult, fill out the questionnaire (a yellow sheet) stating that you are purchasing the gun for yourself, that you are a legal resident of this country and asking for your State of residency, also that you are not a convicted felon or have a conviction for family violence, that you are not a druggie, etc., etc., etc... Remember, NO ABBREVIATIONS WHATSOEVER ON THIS FORM. This is then checked by phone by the vendor and can take as little as ten minutes, or as long as a couple of days. This background check is skipped if you hold a valid Texas concealed carry permit, but the form is STILL filled out. Also, you will be given or told of a 'set of gun safety rules' and you will be asked to read them before using your gun. Then you pay for your gun and take custody of it.
First question, what is a good starter gun for deer hunting? Answer: Nothing smaller than a .243 Winchester and then only with nothing lighter than the 100 grain hunting round. The old .30-30 Winchester is okay, but is not exceptionally accurate nor is it an exceptionally long range rifle--150 yards max. It does have noticeable but not painful recoil. Personally I've found the .44 Remington Magnum Model 92 to be more accurate, about the same felt recoil and about fifty yards shorter maximum range.
Resist the temptation to buy anything in any of the .22 calibers (.222, .223, 22-250) for deer. They'll bring down a deer but not swiftly nor humanely. If larger calibers don't scare you off you should really consider the .25-06 Remington, a truly stellar deer cartridge.
Happy hunting!
H
Well thats a question that you will get 1000 different anwsers to.
1st. it depends on your size. Larger caliber rifles for larger people.
2nd. Whats the longest distance you will be shooting.
3rd. How much do you want to spend.
My personal opinion is a Ruger M77 .300 Win. Mag is the best all around gun for the money. I bought my 1st one with a synthetic stock in black with a stainless steel finish on the barrel and reciever. The gun wears well and shoots as far as you would like within reason of course. I put a Leupold 3x9x42 scope and it shoots great. The gun is great from deer to Moose depending on what size load you use.
depending on your body size, etc. one cannot go wrong starting out with light recoiling .243 0r .260. they are super accurate, very flat shooting, with little recoil. i bought my 11 yr. old daughter a .243 and she loves it.
SKS or Ak are cheap, and fine for Texas sized deer. All you need is cash and a drivers license.
I wouldnt use anything smaller than a 30-30 winchester for deer.
it all depends on your budget, if you don't want to drop alot of money on a rifle and your not worried about looks then i would suggest a British 303, or maybe a 7.62 X 54r. both of these rifles can be bought for less than 100 bucks and can be tossed around and dropped without you worrying about hurting them.
if your gonna spend a little money then i would suggest something in a .270 caliber for starting out. it has a mild recoil and wont bruise your shoulder after a day on the range. some people like the .243 but in my opinion its a bit small for whitetail. a 30-06 or bigger has quite a recoil and without alot of experience with larger bore rifles you may end up flinching when you pull the trigger resulting in a missed shot. again i suggest a .270, large selection of ammo, light recoil with still enough power to consistently drop deer, and as far as brand of rifle that all depends on you. go to the gun store and hold different brands of rifles till you find the one that is inside your budget and feels the best in you shoulder.
i also suggest a Simmons scope to top of your rifle, their new Master Series design is awesome and very affordable considering the quality. they also come with a lifetime warranty.
good luck and have fun, i hope you get a big one.
The aforementioned calibers are fine. To make the purchase you need to be at least 18 years of age, not be on probation or under indictment, and not have any felony convictions. A misdemeanor conviction of domestic violence will also disqualify you. So, if you are qualified to make the purchase then go to a gun store, select the rifle that you want to purchase, and fill out the paperwork which takes about 2 minutes. The clerk will call NICS to initiate a background check and with the smallest bit of luck you will most likely walk out of the store with your shiny new weapon in about 5 to 10 minutes. Oh, I'm a .308 Winchester kind of guy. It will kill almost anything on this continent without kicking the bejesus out of you which means that you'll practice a great deal more with it. The ammo is reasonably priced as well.
I would recommend something like a .243 caliber. It has a relatively light recoil yet has sufficient power to cleanly kill a white tail deer. If you are a Texas resident with no criminal history, all you have to do is to go to a store that sells the rifle that you want and purchase it. Because it is a long gun, there is no waiting period. You buy it and take it home with you. While you are there, talk to a salesman and ask what specific ammo you should buy for it. For each caliber there are many different brands and loadings. You need to get the correct cartridge for the purpose for which you will be using your rifle. Once you have the rifle, you will need a scope for it. Here is a bit of advice that most people will want to argue with until they have been hunting long enough to understand the importance of it. That is that you should plan on spending as much on a scope as you do on the rifle. Tough to swallow? Look at it this way, you will spend money on a license, ammo, gun, a place to hunt, the expense of getting to your lease, camping gear, food, and the list goes on and on. Do you really want spend all of that money just to get to set in that deer blind and then risk missing a shot because of a lesser quality scope? Your rifle is only going to be as accurate as your scope. Don't blow your hunting trip because you were trying to save a few dollars on the scope. Good scopes are expensive but you get what you pay for. A good one will set you back at least $500. Also, I recomment a fixed power scope over a variable power one. Oh, sure, most people will spend the money to get a 3X to 9X scope and then find that they set it on somewhere between 4X and 6X and leave it there. Why pay for something that you won't get that much use from. I think that a fixed power scope of 6X will be a great scope and you will have a scope with a much clearer image than one of a variable power.
bushes are telling you.
i'm a remington fan, since they have a factory close to where i grew up. you should be able to find a Remington Model 700 about anywhere that sells rifles.
Buy a .243, .270., .308 or a 30-06 caliber. Any of those four calibers are fine for deer in TX and should be very easy to find ammo. I have a Remington Model 7 (short version of model 700) in .308. Mild recoil and can find ammo about anywhere.
Since it's a rifle and not a handgun, you should have to do much to buy it other than pay for it.
Enjoy and good hunting.
You need to be 18+ and have a clean record. You may also have to take a hunter safety course (I recommend you do since this is you first rifle). First you need to look at rifle types
Lever guns. These are great for thicker cover. Calibers: 30-30, 45/70 (It can kick), .444 Marlin, .35 Remington are the classics. All will do the job, but the 30-30 gets the nod by me for deer. Makers: Marlin or Winchester (they quite making the M94, but you should still be able to find one). The Marlin 336 is about as good as you can hope for.
Bolt- action and single shots. Here anything from .243-the .300 whizzbangers will work. Optimum ones include the 257 Roberts, 25-06, .270, 7mm-08, .308, 30-06 and the various short mags and ultra mags in those calibers. these guns hit far out there, so plan to spend as much or more on the scope as you do on the rifle.
Savage, Remington, Winchester, ruger, New England, Browning, all make various actions and calibers.
Semi-Auto's and Pumps. Here you are looking at Remington, Browning, and Benelli. These can generally be had in the same calibers for the autos.
My own preferance is 30-06 right now nad .308 since I own both. I am hoping to get a 25-06 and a .270 WSM to round out my collection. If are planning on hunting animals larger than deer, then the 270-7mm-.30 class rounds are going to be more useful. If you are hoping to varmint hunt the .243 and .25 calibers are going to do you better. Good luck and stay safe out there!
Most all hunters that I grew up with in Texas started out with a .243 Rem or Win fitted with a 3X9 scope. It's a very flat shooting round with little recoil.
All you need is a record free from felony convictions and a few hundred dollars.What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
the 30-30 is the classic deer hunter starter rifle, it will do the job.
I am unsure of the laws and requirements of purchasing a firearm in Texas, so I can not speak too intelligently on that.
As to what type of rifle to buy鈥?br>
Rifles are very personal things. Some people prefer bolt actions, some lever actions, etc.. I would highly recommend going to a gun shop and trying a few different rifles to see what feels good to you. Personally, I am a Remington 700 fan (I love their Mountain rifle in the 700). However, I have rifles of almost every action (single shot is the only type I do not own yet鈥lans are in the works though). I have enjoyed shooting and hunting with them all. Some are better than others. If I am going to be hunting through heavy brush, I like a short lever action as they handle well and it is easy to get a quick shot off. If I am hunting from a stand or blind, I like a longer rifle.
I have found bolt action rifles to be pretty accurate with whatever type of ammo I shoot through it. Pump actions are pretty forgiving as well, but mine still has some ammo it just doesn鈥檛 shoot well. Semi-autos seem to be very picky and mine only shoots one load consistently well. Lever actions tend to be the most inaccurate (at least for me). If I can put 5 shots within a 3 inch group at 100 meters, I am happy (3 inches is terrible for me鈥ood for others, but I have had years of shooting behind me).
If you have unlimited funds, I like the Sako 75 Finnlight series. They are light and well fitting. One of these will put you back at least a grand ($1400 is the most expensive I鈥檝e seen one for) and I have heard of waits over a year for Sako rifles. If you are on a moderate budget, Browning, Remington, Winchester, and Ruger all make nice rifles. I have shot them all. Personally, I prefer Browning, Remington, Ruger, and Winchester in that order. There is nothing wrong with a Winchester, I just never cared for them. If you are on a strict budget, Savage makes a rifle/scope package that sells at most Wal-Marts for about $400. While I have not shot a modern Savage, I hear excellent things about them.
What cartridge to buy is a tough subject. Which cartridge depends on your shooting experience, your size, future hunting plans, etc鈥?br>
If this were the only rifle you planned on buying, I鈥檇 recommend a 30-06 Springfield. It is by far the most popular cartridge on the planet. There is a huge selection of factory ammo. The cartridge can be used for anything from groundhogs to big brown bear (with some patience and good shot placement). The recoil is a little much if you are a beginning shooter or are a small person. I wouldn鈥檛 use this as a starter rifle, only if you have some shooting experience.
If you are brand new to the world of shooting, I鈥檇 recommend one of the following:
243 Win (95 grain bullet or higher...great ammo availability, very low recoil)
257 Roberts (a great round, but ammo and rifles can be hard to find)
6.5x55 Swede (a great compromise between power and recoil...ammo availability is a little lacking but it can still be found pretty easily)
7mm-08 (This is an all around great round. The recoil is starting to get on the higher side for a beginning rifle, but still very tolerable. Ammo is widely available and the cartridge can be used on anything up to about elk sized game...and even elk of you are careful)
30-30 Win (a tried and true deer round. Rifles are abundant and can be bought used for cheap. Effective range is limited due to the flat point bullets required, but that is now changing with a new type of ammo called Leverelution (I think)...a great beginner round)
7.62x39mm (a round mainly known for use in the AK-47. Sport rifles are a little hard to come by, but they are out there. The round is on the low end for deer, but for shot out to 100 to 150 yards, I'd feel comfortable with it. Just make sure you have a good clean shot to the vitals...I wouldn't trust this round to penetrate much bone)
35 Remington (this is getting to the higher end of the recoil spectrum for a beginners rifle. The round is slow and something I'd recommend for short range only. This isn't something I'd recommend, but if you can find one for cheap, it may be one to consider)
If I were to own one gun, I鈥檇 opt for a 35 Whelen. Short of large African game, it can take out pretty much anything. The cons of the cartridge is that ammo is not readily available and recoil is a little stiff (not terrible, but it can get your attention).
Good luck. Happy hunting
I would start with a 16 guague.
Last question first: To purchase a gun in Texas (even a long gun) you have to be an adult, fill out the questionnaire (a yellow sheet) stating that you are purchasing the gun for yourself, that you are a legal resident of this country and asking for your State of residency, also that you are not a convicted felon or have a conviction for family violence, that you are not a druggie, etc., etc., etc... Remember, NO ABBREVIATIONS WHATSOEVER ON THIS FORM. This is then checked by phone by the vendor and can take as little as ten minutes, or as long as a couple of days. This background check is skipped if you hold a valid Texas concealed carry permit, but the form is STILL filled out. Also, you will be given or told of a 'set of gun safety rules' and you will be asked to read them before using your gun. Then you pay for your gun and take custody of it.
First question, what is a good starter gun for deer hunting? Answer: Nothing smaller than a .243 Winchester and then only with nothing lighter than the 100 grain hunting round. The old .30-30 Winchester is okay, but is not exceptionally accurate nor is it an exceptionally long range rifle--150 yards max. It does have noticeable but not painful recoil. Personally I've found the .44 Remington Magnum Model 92 to be more accurate, about the same felt recoil and about fifty yards shorter maximum range.
Resist the temptation to buy anything in any of the .22 calibers (.222, .223, 22-250) for deer. They'll bring down a deer but not swiftly nor humanely. If larger calibers don't scare you off you should really consider the .25-06 Remington, a truly stellar deer cartridge.
Happy hunting!
H
Well thats a question that you will get 1000 different anwsers to.
1st. it depends on your size. Larger caliber rifles for larger people.
2nd. Whats the longest distance you will be shooting.
3rd. How much do you want to spend.
My personal opinion is a Ruger M77 .300 Win. Mag is the best all around gun for the money. I bought my 1st one with a synthetic stock in black with a stainless steel finish on the barrel and reciever. The gun wears well and shoots as far as you would like within reason of course. I put a Leupold 3x9x42 scope and it shoots great. The gun is great from deer to Moose depending on what size load you use.
depending on your body size, etc. one cannot go wrong starting out with light recoiling .243 0r .260. they are super accurate, very flat shooting, with little recoil. i bought my 11 yr. old daughter a .243 and she loves it.
SKS or Ak are cheap, and fine for Texas sized deer. All you need is cash and a drivers license.
I wouldnt use anything smaller than a 30-30 winchester for deer.
it all depends on your budget, if you don't want to drop alot of money on a rifle and your not worried about looks then i would suggest a British 303, or maybe a 7.62 X 54r. both of these rifles can be bought for less than 100 bucks and can be tossed around and dropped without you worrying about hurting them.
if your gonna spend a little money then i would suggest something in a .270 caliber for starting out. it has a mild recoil and wont bruise your shoulder after a day on the range. some people like the .243 but in my opinion its a bit small for whitetail. a 30-06 or bigger has quite a recoil and without alot of experience with larger bore rifles you may end up flinching when you pull the trigger resulting in a missed shot. again i suggest a .270, large selection of ammo, light recoil with still enough power to consistently drop deer, and as far as brand of rifle that all depends on you. go to the gun store and hold different brands of rifles till you find the one that is inside your budget and feels the best in you shoulder.
i also suggest a Simmons scope to top of your rifle, their new Master Series design is awesome and very affordable considering the quality. they also come with a lifetime warranty.
good luck and have fun, i hope you get a big one.
The aforementioned calibers are fine. To make the purchase you need to be at least 18 years of age, not be on probation or under indictment, and not have any felony convictions. A misdemeanor conviction of domestic violence will also disqualify you. So, if you are qualified to make the purchase then go to a gun store, select the rifle that you want to purchase, and fill out the paperwork which takes about 2 minutes. The clerk will call NICS to initiate a background check and with the smallest bit of luck you will most likely walk out of the store with your shiny new weapon in about 5 to 10 minutes. Oh, I'm a .308 Winchester kind of guy. It will kill almost anything on this continent without kicking the bejesus out of you which means that you'll practice a great deal more with it. The ammo is reasonably priced as well.
I would recommend something like a .243 caliber. It has a relatively light recoil yet has sufficient power to cleanly kill a white tail deer. If you are a Texas resident with no criminal history, all you have to do is to go to a store that sells the rifle that you want and purchase it. Because it is a long gun, there is no waiting period. You buy it and take it home with you. While you are there, talk to a salesman and ask what specific ammo you should buy for it. For each caliber there are many different brands and loadings. You need to get the correct cartridge for the purpose for which you will be using your rifle. Once you have the rifle, you will need a scope for it. Here is a bit of advice that most people will want to argue with until they have been hunting long enough to understand the importance of it. That is that you should plan on spending as much on a scope as you do on the rifle. Tough to swallow? Look at it this way, you will spend money on a license, ammo, gun, a place to hunt, the expense of getting to your lease, camping gear, food, and the list goes on and on. Do you really want spend all of that money just to get to set in that deer blind and then risk missing a shot because of a lesser quality scope? Your rifle is only going to be as accurate as your scope. Don't blow your hunting trip because you were trying to save a few dollars on the scope. Good scopes are expensive but you get what you pay for. A good one will set you back at least $500. Also, I recomment a fixed power scope over a variable power one. Oh, sure, most people will spend the money to get a 3X to 9X scope and then find that they set it on somewhere between 4X and 6X and leave it there. Why pay for something that you won't get that much use from. I think that a fixed power scope of 6X will be a great scope and you will have a scope with a much clearer image than one of a variable power.
bushes are telling you.
i'm a remington fan, since they have a factory close to where i grew up. you should be able to find a Remington Model 700 about anywhere that sells rifles.
Buy a .243, .270., .308 or a 30-06 caliber. Any of those four calibers are fine for deer in TX and should be very easy to find ammo. I have a Remington Model 7 (short version of model 700) in .308. Mild recoil and can find ammo about anywhere.
Since it's a rifle and not a handgun, you should have to do much to buy it other than pay for it.
Enjoy and good hunting.
You need to be 18+ and have a clean record. You may also have to take a hunter safety course (I recommend you do since this is you first rifle). First you need to look at rifle types
Lever guns. These are great for thicker cover. Calibers: 30-30, 45/70 (It can kick), .444 Marlin, .35 Remington are the classics. All will do the job, but the 30-30 gets the nod by me for deer. Makers: Marlin or Winchester (they quite making the M94, but you should still be able to find one). The Marlin 336 is about as good as you can hope for.
Bolt- action and single shots. Here anything from .243-the .300 whizzbangers will work. Optimum ones include the 257 Roberts, 25-06, .270, 7mm-08, .308, 30-06 and the various short mags and ultra mags in those calibers. these guns hit far out there, so plan to spend as much or more on the scope as you do on the rifle.
Savage, Remington, Winchester, ruger, New England, Browning, all make various actions and calibers.
Semi-Auto's and Pumps. Here you are looking at Remington, Browning, and Benelli. These can generally be had in the same calibers for the autos.
My own preferance is 30-06 right now nad .308 since I own both. I am hoping to get a 25-06 and a .270 WSM to round out my collection. If are planning on hunting animals larger than deer, then the 270-7mm-.30 class rounds are going to be more useful. If you are hoping to varmint hunt the .243 and .25 calibers are going to do you better. Good luck and stay safe out there!
How do you operate the Oliver Creek g3 deer feeder digital timer?
We try to set the time but it doesn't ever set. We get it to show the correct time, but it doesn't ever change.How do you operate the Oliver Creek g3 deer feeder digital timer?
Call company and get support, sounds as if you will have to have it replaced.
Call company and get support, sounds as if you will have to have it replaced.
A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
I recently moved to the country area and my garbage can has no lid (County Owned Garbage Can). I ordered a new garbage can, but havent gotten it yet. We have had a problem with something getting into our garbage. I say something because we do have deer in our backyard all the time (I just dont know if they eat garbage or not). So after picking up nasty garbage out of the grass three times, I bought some spray that is suppose to keep dogs and cats away (You have to spray every day and its mostly used to train your own pets, not strays). I also got some twist-tied ';pepper-looking'; things that you hang up to help keep animals away. It worked for a few days. But the day the garbage man came, the garbage was all over the ground again. Any other ideas, except shooting the animals?A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
Along the same lines as the spray you bought, but probably less expensive, would be ammonia. Pour it on the garbage every time you take a bag to the can. It should keep ANY animals away.
I think I would avoid putting food in the garbage bags, if possible, until the new can arrives.A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
raccoons or bears pour a 1/4 cup of house hold ammonia into your garbage can
Put a piece of tin or something like that over the top of the can and weight it down with a concrete block AND spray the ammonia or other deterrent, as well. They also sell those big industrial size cans with the flip top lid at Lowe's. If you buy one, you will have two when the other one comes, but sometimes you need two--especially at Christmas and after other celebrations where there is lots of garbage. Maybe you should just buy one now. Best of luck.
Pine Sol or amonia works. had this problem beore.
Put your ';non-food'; trash (cans, newspapers, etc.) in your trash can with no lid while you wait for your new trash can. Bury all ';food'; trash (banana skins, apple cores, turkey bones, etc.) underground as a temporary measure until the new trash can comes. The ';food'; trash will decompose on its own.
It wouldn't be deer but it could be raccoons. I think some sort of temporary cover - plywood and a big rock or two - would be best thing. Hope that new can comes soon
Probaby you have racoons. Deer will not eat out of garbage, they are vegitarian and eat mostly living things. They also eat acorn and walnuts but not garbage. The powder does seem to have potential but it trains your animals and has to be applied daily. The best defence is the same way you keep animals out of the garden. Use silver pie plates and a good trick is to get one of those funny little caractures that talk or laugh and are set off by movement. It will scare the bejesus out of any animal and does not harm them in any way.
Try sprinkling bleach in the can an late on the garbage. I hared it works.
Along the same lines as the spray you bought, but probably less expensive, would be ammonia. Pour it on the garbage every time you take a bag to the can. It should keep ANY animals away.
I think I would avoid putting food in the garbage bags, if possible, until the new can arrives.A good way to keep dogs and perhaps deer out of my garbage?
raccoons or bears pour a 1/4 cup of house hold ammonia into your garbage can
Put a piece of tin or something like that over the top of the can and weight it down with a concrete block AND spray the ammonia or other deterrent, as well. They also sell those big industrial size cans with the flip top lid at Lowe's. If you buy one, you will have two when the other one comes, but sometimes you need two--especially at Christmas and after other celebrations where there is lots of garbage. Maybe you should just buy one now. Best of luck.
Pine Sol or amonia works. had this problem beore.
Put your ';non-food'; trash (cans, newspapers, etc.) in your trash can with no lid while you wait for your new trash can. Bury all ';food'; trash (banana skins, apple cores, turkey bones, etc.) underground as a temporary measure until the new trash can comes. The ';food'; trash will decompose on its own.
It wouldn't be deer but it could be raccoons. I think some sort of temporary cover - plywood and a big rock or two - would be best thing. Hope that new can comes soon
Probaby you have racoons. Deer will not eat out of garbage, they are vegitarian and eat mostly living things. They also eat acorn and walnuts but not garbage. The powder does seem to have potential but it trains your animals and has to be applied daily. The best defence is the same way you keep animals out of the garden. Use silver pie plates and a good trick is to get one of those funny little caractures that talk or laugh and are set off by movement. It will scare the bejesus out of any animal and does not harm them in any way.
Try sprinkling bleach in the can an late on the garbage. I hared it works.
Does anyone know any places i can buy Deer meat in Western Australia?
Im just curious ^^ ive been told how tasty it is i wanna try it bad, but we neither have the money or time to fly to America just to try it lol. And im told it can be bought here. The problem is where? You cant get it from the local supermarket... Any ideas?Does anyone know any places i can buy Deer meat in Western Australia?
Maybe try these guys, or ask at any specialty butcher:
My Butcher Lifestyle Foods
Location Shop 2/120 Bussell Highway
Email sueosmo@bigpond.com
Phone +61 8 9757 2313
Fax No +61 8 9757 2313
Mobile 0438 277 264
As the name suggests, personalised customer service with food that fits your lifestyle. A TRADITIONAL BUTCHER SHOP WITH A CONTEMPORARY FOOD TWIST. My butcher prides itself on quality and freshness second to none.
Fresh local fish, homemade sausages, goat, crocodile, kangaroo, rabbits, spatchcocks, homemade smallgoods, organic beef, free range chickens, the list goes on and its all GOOD!!
Our Opening Hours are OPEN 7 DAYS - MONDAY TO SATURDAY 7am to 6pm, SUNDAY 10am to 6 pmgray hair
Maybe try these guys, or ask at any specialty butcher:
My Butcher Lifestyle Foods
Location Shop 2/120 Bussell Highway
Email sueosmo@bigpond.com
Phone +61 8 9757 2313
Fax No +61 8 9757 2313
Mobile 0438 277 264
As the name suggests, personalised customer service with food that fits your lifestyle. A TRADITIONAL BUTCHER SHOP WITH A CONTEMPORARY FOOD TWIST. My butcher prides itself on quality and freshness second to none.
Fresh local fish, homemade sausages, goat, crocodile, kangaroo, rabbits, spatchcocks, homemade smallgoods, organic beef, free range chickens, the list goes on and its all GOOD!!
Our Opening Hours are OPEN 7 DAYS - MONDAY TO SATURDAY 7am to 6pm, SUNDAY 10am to 6 pm
What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
I hit a deer once, luckily an ambulance turned up and moved the poor thing to the grass verge. The deer didn't die immediately, although it's wounds were fatal I didn't have the heart to finish it off.What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
I would call for help for the deer. I feel if it could be saved, then I would want that; but, if the deer was in pain, and could'nt be saved I would'nt want it to suffer.What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
put it the boot of the car and take it to the butchers
call the paramedics and have them meet u there with a gurney! jk! call police or somethin so they can remove it from the road, or a veterinarian if it's still alive. have ur car checked over, hitting animals on the road can be very damaging to ur car, not to mention urself!
sling it in the back of your car, if you have a mate who's a butcher, get him to sort it out, if not ,pay someone, venison, hung for a few weeks is really tasty. Years ago onour way home from a night out in my mates car, we hit a sheep it was dead so in the back i went. Luckily his cousin was a butcher, he sorted it for us, according to him it was only about 18 months old, so it tasted o.k. and was tender
i think as they are CROWN PROPERTY (as are swans) you are supposed to call the police and they remove the animal ...maybe to their own freezer, but you can get into trouble knocking one over then picking it up as it can be argued that it was deliberate ..this aslo is the case when knocking over pheasants if you knock it over you cant pick it up but the person behind you can... weird but hey thats england lol
In GB the legal stance is that if you knock down a deer, killing it, you CANNOT keep it.
The next person on the scene has legal claim to the beast, to do with what they please.
if it is the forest area, hand it over to the forest rangers.
Here is the professional answer to this question: If You Hit A Deer Do You ... I hit a deer on a state owned road. Can I get my deductible waived since
Things used to be better. We didn't have any money, but things were better. ..... Get up off this floor, Rose, and put your damned tit back in your dress! ...
Deer oh deer one for the pot
I would call for help for the deer. I feel if it could be saved, then I would want that; but, if the deer was in pain, and could'nt be saved I would'nt want it to suffer.What should you do when you hit a deer in the road?
put it the boot of the car and take it to the butchers
call the paramedics and have them meet u there with a gurney! jk! call police or somethin so they can remove it from the road, or a veterinarian if it's still alive. have ur car checked over, hitting animals on the road can be very damaging to ur car, not to mention urself!
sling it in the back of your car, if you have a mate who's a butcher, get him to sort it out, if not ,pay someone, venison, hung for a few weeks is really tasty. Years ago onour way home from a night out in my mates car, we hit a sheep it was dead so in the back i went. Luckily his cousin was a butcher, he sorted it for us, according to him it was only about 18 months old, so it tasted o.k. and was tender
i think as they are CROWN PROPERTY (as are swans) you are supposed to call the police and they remove the animal ...maybe to their own freezer, but you can get into trouble knocking one over then picking it up as it can be argued that it was deliberate ..this aslo is the case when knocking over pheasants if you knock it over you cant pick it up but the person behind you can... weird but hey thats england lol
In GB the legal stance is that if you knock down a deer, killing it, you CANNOT keep it.
The next person on the scene has legal claim to the beast, to do with what they please.
if it is the forest area, hand it over to the forest rangers.
Here is the professional answer to this question: If You Hit A Deer Do You ... I hit a deer on a state owned road. Can I get my deductible waived since
Things used to be better. We didn't have any money, but things were better. ..... Get up off this floor, Rose, and put your damned tit back in your dress! ...
Deer oh deer one for the pot
Can you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
Am trying to find info on current hunting laws in GA and i can not find any website. I am wondering if it is legal to hunt with an SKS in Georgia. OR do you have to have a 5 round clip. Wouldnt that be illegal since you modified the weapon ?Can you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
just dont load it with more than the law allowsCan you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
I live in Roswell Georgia and here's the deal, the limit on our magazine capacity is 6 rounds, but you can carry as many 6 round clips as you like. It's still perfectly legal to use a non-factory magazine, since we don't have restrictions on that topic, and the SKS is legal, too. I have heard that some areas have restrictions on what caliber you can use on certain game, and I haven't heard of the 7.62 or .308 being banned anywhere in GA.
I have no idea about how many rounds your gun can hold in GA, but if you just switch magazines to a lower capacity one, that's not illegal. You could also just buy a 5 round magazine plug, designed precisely for this situation.
If you're unsure, just pick up the phone and call the DNR!!
Wat odds,one bullet is enough,the other rounds is only for if you get lost,lol---if you need 10 rounds in a gun stay home and go shoppin with the wife.
Looks like the Peta crowd made a visit according to the thumbs down.lol,if we all lost our appetite then perhaps they would be happy.
I have hunted in some 30 states and have never found one yet that allows more than a 5 shot capacity on big game...
check your laws its usually a 5 round capacity
No, six is the limit.
yes you are allowed to do that
just dont load it with more than the law allowsCan you deer hunt with a rifle that holds 10 rounds in Georgia?
I live in Roswell Georgia and here's the deal, the limit on our magazine capacity is 6 rounds, but you can carry as many 6 round clips as you like. It's still perfectly legal to use a non-factory magazine, since we don't have restrictions on that topic, and the SKS is legal, too. I have heard that some areas have restrictions on what caliber you can use on certain game, and I haven't heard of the 7.62 or .308 being banned anywhere in GA.
I have no idea about how many rounds your gun can hold in GA, but if you just switch magazines to a lower capacity one, that's not illegal. You could also just buy a 5 round magazine plug, designed precisely for this situation.
If you're unsure, just pick up the phone and call the DNR!!
Wat odds,one bullet is enough,the other rounds is only for if you get lost,lol---if you need 10 rounds in a gun stay home and go shoppin with the wife.
Looks like the Peta crowd made a visit according to the thumbs down.lol,if we all lost our appetite then perhaps they would be happy.
I have hunted in some 30 states and have never found one yet that allows more than a 5 shot capacity on big game...
check your laws its usually a 5 round capacity
No, six is the limit.
yes you are allowed to do that
Where is the best Place to hunt Whitetail deer in the Nebraska area?
New to the area, also new to hunting in general and am looking for good advice and tips for hunting the area.Where is the best Place to hunt Whitetail deer in the Nebraska area?
The Nebraska 'area'? Do you have any idea how big Nebraska is? Narrowing it down might help- there are great hunting places all across the state.
The Nebraska 'area'? Do you have any idea how big Nebraska is? Narrowing it down might help- there are great hunting places all across the state.
How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
Do you think one could cut up deer,or have it ground..bones and all and feed it to our dogs? Also what about old,freezer burnt,or spoiled meat..Is it still feedable?
I have read a lot about feeding chicken to dogs but is turkey just as good?
Thank you!How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
Nothing wrong with feeding your dog Deer or old freezer burnt meat. BUT spoiled no not at all although a dogs stomach can handle most bacterias if not immune it could get sick and die. As far as the ground bones i would not recommend this as it may have sharp edge's that could cut up the dogs insides.How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
you have to put this into perspective, dogs evolved over thousands of generations to process raw meat, they are carnivores that love meat of any kind. Deer is great because they would have hunted this animal in the wild.
To all of you who only want your dogs to eat Science diet or some crap like that, think about this. The oldest dog on record is a 30 year old RAW FED dog in Australia. and tens of thousands of generations of evolution and natural selection easily Trump the one hundred year history of dry dog food.
Deer meat is fine, go easy on the A1 sauce, JK
Deer meat, fine... as long as it doesn't have that ';mad cow'; disease that deer/elk get.
Old/freezer burnt, is not good.
Turkey, just as good as chicken. however, do not give them the bones.
The meat is fine, but CWD has infiltrated the deer population even worse that BSE has infiltrated the cow population.
Dogs LOVE wild meat, go for it. I feed a raw diet, and my dogs love moose meat better than beef.
Deer meat is okay for dogs. (I actually prefer venison over beef for my own food as well. It's leaner and I like the taste better.)
The dog food I feed has deer meat in it (I know you're refering to raw though): http://www.merrickpetcare.com/store/deta鈥?/a>
Turkey and chicken are also both okay.
Deer do have parasites inside of them. I remember one of our neighbors gave his lab some raw meat from a deer he had killed the week before and the dog got sick. Consider giving your dog cooked meat only, the bones aren't that nutrional that it needs to be added, also could cause intestional damages. Nobody should eat spoiled meat including a dog but freezer burnt isn't going to make them sick but they might not eat it if it tastes funny.
Personally I wouldn't give my dog a turkey because of the crap they feed them. /think about their size/
Venison is great, however, they still need the ';bones %26amp; cartalige'; tissues. Freezer ';burnt'; is ok.
But that's just my opinion.
Late Entry : Wilfredo, I do admire your optimism :)))
I know raw feeders give their dogs deer meat, but I've always been a little skeptical for fear of parasites and haven't tried it. Old, freezer burnt meat is fine, never spoiled meat (why take a chance?) Turkey is fine, I feed it regularly.
Dogs should not be fed raw meat of any kind. They have been domesticated and their abliity to process raw meat is not like it once was. Check with your Vet.
i really don't recommended you ,if you ask a vet he will tell you the same, if you buy a high quality dog food like royal canine your dog will be really healthy but if what you want is natural dog food buy organic dog food or natural dog food if you feed your dog raw food by the time your dog may get sick.
high quality dog food in pet stores is made by professionals vets, breeders etc. and they contain the exact amount of proteins,vitamins and minerals for your dog to stay healthy
I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I HAD HAVE DOGS FOR 13 EYERS AND I HAVE TRIED ALL KINDS OF DIETS INCLUDING RAW DIET AND HIGH QUALITY DOG FOOD IS WHAT IT HAS WORKED BETTER.
I have read a lot about feeding chicken to dogs but is turkey just as good?
Thank you!How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
Nothing wrong with feeding your dog Deer or old freezer burnt meat. BUT spoiled no not at all although a dogs stomach can handle most bacterias if not immune it could get sick and die. As far as the ground bones i would not recommend this as it may have sharp edge's that could cut up the dogs insides.How about deer meat for dogs that are on a raw food diet?
you have to put this into perspective, dogs evolved over thousands of generations to process raw meat, they are carnivores that love meat of any kind. Deer is great because they would have hunted this animal in the wild.
To all of you who only want your dogs to eat Science diet or some crap like that, think about this. The oldest dog on record is a 30 year old RAW FED dog in Australia. and tens of thousands of generations of evolution and natural selection easily Trump the one hundred year history of dry dog food.
Deer meat is fine, go easy on the A1 sauce, JK
Deer meat, fine... as long as it doesn't have that ';mad cow'; disease that deer/elk get.
Old/freezer burnt, is not good.
Turkey, just as good as chicken. however, do not give them the bones.
The meat is fine, but CWD has infiltrated the deer population even worse that BSE has infiltrated the cow population.
Dogs LOVE wild meat, go for it. I feed a raw diet, and my dogs love moose meat better than beef.
Deer meat is okay for dogs. (I actually prefer venison over beef for my own food as well. It's leaner and I like the taste better.)
The dog food I feed has deer meat in it (I know you're refering to raw though): http://www.merrickpetcare.com/store/deta鈥?/a>
Turkey and chicken are also both okay.
Deer do have parasites inside of them. I remember one of our neighbors gave his lab some raw meat from a deer he had killed the week before and the dog got sick. Consider giving your dog cooked meat only, the bones aren't that nutrional that it needs to be added, also could cause intestional damages. Nobody should eat spoiled meat including a dog but freezer burnt isn't going to make them sick but they might not eat it if it tastes funny.
Personally I wouldn't give my dog a turkey because of the crap they feed them. /think about their size/
Venison is great, however, they still need the ';bones %26amp; cartalige'; tissues. Freezer ';burnt'; is ok.
But that's just my opinion.
Late Entry : Wilfredo, I do admire your optimism :)))
I know raw feeders give their dogs deer meat, but I've always been a little skeptical for fear of parasites and haven't tried it. Old, freezer burnt meat is fine, never spoiled meat (why take a chance?) Turkey is fine, I feed it regularly.
Dogs should not be fed raw meat of any kind. They have been domesticated and their abliity to process raw meat is not like it once was. Check with your Vet.
i really don't recommended you ,if you ask a vet he will tell you the same, if you buy a high quality dog food like royal canine your dog will be really healthy but if what you want is natural dog food buy organic dog food or natural dog food if you feed your dog raw food by the time your dog may get sick.
high quality dog food in pet stores is made by professionals vets, breeders etc. and they contain the exact amount of proteins,vitamins and minerals for your dog to stay healthy
I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I HAD HAVE DOGS FOR 13 EYERS AND I HAVE TRIED ALL KINDS OF DIETS INCLUDING RAW DIET AND HIGH QUALITY DOG FOOD IS WHAT IT HAS WORKED BETTER.
Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
He snacks on it whenever he can find it. I'm not really sure why though. He eats Innova dog food. Could it have something to do with colder weather?Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
Nothing to do with diet, nothing to do with lacking nutrients or lacking minerals, and absolutely nothing to do with weather. Dogs will be dogs! The grosser the object, the more they want to rub on it, roll in it, and eat it.
I would try to discourage this behavior or make huge efforts to avoid the situation if possible. Deers are carriers of Leptospirosis and Judge can certainly become infected.Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
Deer droppings are tasty little morsels to any dog... so are rabbit pellets and even cat poop. Some of it is because when a dog smells something they analyze the scent and identify each and every component of it, they discover that the droppings are nutrient rich and therefore consider it food. All dogs will do it if given the chance. All animal droppings can contain parasites, so I would discourage my dog with a ';Leave it';.
The eating of droppings ect is usually a deficency in vitaimins and nutriants, this does not mean you arent feeding him right it just means the vit ect are not properly balanced in his body you can by vits ect from your local vet or pet shop, they can be as treats, to put in water or as tablets treats work best.
Dogs just have a natural tendency towards eating droppings. (mine personally prefers goose poop-in bulk). The deer probably has something to do with the residual deer smell. You're feeding a really good food, so no worries about bad nutrition. Just keep him on a tight leash!
Nothing to do with diet, nothing to do with lacking nutrients or lacking minerals, and absolutely nothing to do with weather. Dogs will be dogs! The grosser the object, the more they want to rub on it, roll in it, and eat it.
I would try to discourage this behavior or make huge efforts to avoid the situation if possible. Deers are carriers of Leptospirosis and Judge can certainly become infected.Why has my dog developed a taste for deer droppings?
Deer droppings are tasty little morsels to any dog... so are rabbit pellets and even cat poop. Some of it is because when a dog smells something they analyze the scent and identify each and every component of it, they discover that the droppings are nutrient rich and therefore consider it food. All dogs will do it if given the chance. All animal droppings can contain parasites, so I would discourage my dog with a ';Leave it';.
The eating of droppings ect is usually a deficency in vitaimins and nutriants, this does not mean you arent feeding him right it just means the vit ect are not properly balanced in his body you can by vits ect from your local vet or pet shop, they can be as treats, to put in water or as tablets treats work best.
Dogs just have a natural tendency towards eating droppings. (mine personally prefers goose poop-in bulk). The deer probably has something to do with the residual deer smell. You're feeding a really good food, so no worries about bad nutrition. Just keep him on a tight leash!
Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
I am looking for a picture with a deer and horse togther. Does anyone know where I could find one?Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
Try a search on google images.Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
any goodwill store should have this.
Try typing ';hose and dog'; into the image search in either yahoo search or google... hope that helps.
on the internet......DUH!!!!!!
yes just go search on yahoo images. they have a lot of pictures there
I would shoot for a goodwill.
go to ask.com and type it into images they have any pic ur looken for.
I found a Picture
Click the link belowgray hair
Try a search on google images.Does anyone know where I can find a deer and horse picture?
any goodwill store should have this.
Try typing ';hose and dog'; into the image search in either yahoo search or google... hope that helps.
on the internet......DUH!!!!!!
yes just go search on yahoo images. they have a lot of pictures there
I would shoot for a goodwill.
go to ask.com and type it into images they have any pic ur looken for.
I found a Picture
Click the link below
How long does it take to butcher a deer?
Total time from field dressing to closing the lid on the freezer. Not including the time to drag it out of the woods and drive home of course.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
1-2 hours depending if I let it hang over night. If I am doing it in the dark or the deers age.
I once killed a management doe that was the size of a small horse. She took a long time 3-4 hours. I'm 6'3'; 260lbs and I could not lift her in the truck. That was the biggest body deer I had ever seen.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
You really also need to ask the type of butchering your doing. Are you taking the mussel sections apart and removing the silver skin then wrapping it. Are you butchering it like a swine or beef with a bandsaw cutting your steaks up and grinding the rest. Or are you just going to grind the whole thing and wrapping it up.
I seen a professional Chef from Purdue University do it the German way taking each mussel group apart with a knife and removing silver skin along the way. This took about a hour and a half for half a deer. of course this was part of a class and it might be sped up to an hour for a half (2 hour for a deer). Last year youth early deer season was a hot day and when my young hunter got a deer we hurried to get it checked and butchered. We saved the tenderloin and loin, but ground the rest took less than an hour with three of us working and a commercial grinder. Still had to wrap it after that.
Takes me about an hour total time, that includes, field dressing, skinning, deboning, cutting steaks, cubes, and grinding. You should look on youtube to see how to do it, there is a good couple of videos by someone called williescountrymeats . It does a really good showing you how to do it. I think this will help you out a great deal. Here I found the 1st video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYGBNDc_鈥?/a>
Watch the whole series, and you can really learn a lot.
Happy Hunting.
first time ...hours... just holding the manual open to the right page as you follow along will eat up 45 minutes.
a couple of hours if you have done it before. About half a day to clean up your carport if you forgot to bring a load of sawdust home to work over.
I drive mine over to the meat locker in town... $50 bucks it all wrapped the way I asked and flash frozen.
5-10mins for field dress then depending on number of people and equipment to skin the deer and chop it and wrap it and mark all the pieces in clean environment. About 30mins for a good butcher to do it.
Probably around a half an hour dressing it... sectioning probably takes a good half hour also (I like to divvy up the ';good'; parts from the ';tasty'; parts...). It depends on where I am, and how ';hot'; I feel that day.
well it takes about 10 mintes to field dress a deer. And will vary in time in how you butcher the deer, what cuts of meat, deerburger, etc.
Anywhere between 30 minutes to a few hours. Depends on your experience, etc..
1-2 hours depending if I let it hang over night. If I am doing it in the dark or the deers age.
I once killed a management doe that was the size of a small horse. She took a long time 3-4 hours. I'm 6'3'; 260lbs and I could not lift her in the truck. That was the biggest body deer I had ever seen.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
You really also need to ask the type of butchering your doing. Are you taking the mussel sections apart and removing the silver skin then wrapping it. Are you butchering it like a swine or beef with a bandsaw cutting your steaks up and grinding the rest. Or are you just going to grind the whole thing and wrapping it up.
I seen a professional Chef from Purdue University do it the German way taking each mussel group apart with a knife and removing silver skin along the way. This took about a hour and a half for half a deer. of course this was part of a class and it might be sped up to an hour for a half (2 hour for a deer). Last year youth early deer season was a hot day and when my young hunter got a deer we hurried to get it checked and butchered. We saved the tenderloin and loin, but ground the rest took less than an hour with three of us working and a commercial grinder. Still had to wrap it after that.
Takes me about an hour total time, that includes, field dressing, skinning, deboning, cutting steaks, cubes, and grinding. You should look on youtube to see how to do it, there is a good couple of videos by someone called williescountrymeats . It does a really good showing you how to do it. I think this will help you out a great deal. Here I found the 1st video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYGBNDc_鈥?/a>
Watch the whole series, and you can really learn a lot.
Happy Hunting.
first time ...hours... just holding the manual open to the right page as you follow along will eat up 45 minutes.
a couple of hours if you have done it before. About half a day to clean up your carport if you forgot to bring a load of sawdust home to work over.
I drive mine over to the meat locker in town... $50 bucks it all wrapped the way I asked and flash frozen.
5-10mins for field dress then depending on number of people and equipment to skin the deer and chop it and wrap it and mark all the pieces in clean environment. About 30mins for a good butcher to do it.
Probably around a half an hour dressing it... sectioning probably takes a good half hour also (I like to divvy up the ';good'; parts from the ';tasty'; parts...). It depends on where I am, and how ';hot'; I feel that day.
well it takes about 10 mintes to field dress a deer. And will vary in time in how you butcher the deer, what cuts of meat, deerburger, etc.
Anywhere between 30 minutes to a few hours. Depends on your experience, etc..
How long does it take to butcher a deer?
Total time from field dressing to closing the lid on the freezer. Not including the time to drag it out of the woods and drive home of course.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
1-2 hours depending if I let it hang over night. If I am doing it in the dark or the deers age.
I once killed a management doe that was the size of a small horse. She took a long time 3-4 hours. I'm 6'3'; 260lbs and I could not lift her in the truck. That was the biggest body deer I had ever seen.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
You really also need to ask the type of butchering your doing. Are you taking the mussel sections apart and removing the silver skin then wrapping it. Are you butchering it like a swine or beef with a bandsaw cutting your steaks up and grinding the rest. Or are you just going to grind the whole thing and wrapping it up.
I seen a professional Chef from Purdue University do it the German way taking each mussel group apart with a knife and removing silver skin along the way. This took about a hour and a half for half a deer. of course this was part of a class and it might be sped up to an hour for a half (2 hour for a deer). Last year youth early deer season was a hot day and when my young hunter got a deer we hurried to get it checked and butchered. We saved the tenderloin and loin, but ground the rest took less than an hour with three of us working and a commercial grinder. Still had to wrap it after that.
Takes me about an hour total time, that includes, field dressing, skinning, deboning, cutting steaks, cubes, and grinding. You should look on youtube to see how to do it, there is a good couple of videos by someone called williescountrymeats . It does a really good showing you how to do it. I think this will help you out a great deal. Here I found the 1st video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYGBNDc_鈥?/a>
Watch the whole series, and you can really learn a lot.
Happy Hunting.
first time ...hours... just holding the manual open to the right page as you follow along will eat up 45 minutes.
a couple of hours if you have done it before. About half a day to clean up your carport if you forgot to bring a load of sawdust home to work over.
I drive mine over to the meat locker in town... $50 bucks it all wrapped the way I asked and flash frozen.
5-10mins for field dress then depending on number of people and equipment to skin the deer and chop it and wrap it and mark all the pieces in clean environment. About 30mins for a good butcher to do it.
Probably around a half an hour dressing it... sectioning probably takes a good half hour also (I like to divvy up the ';good'; parts from the ';tasty'; parts...). It depends on where I am, and how ';hot'; I feel that day.
well it takes about 10 mintes to field dress a deer. And will vary in time in how you butcher the deer, what cuts of meat, deerburger, etc.
Anywhere between 30 minutes to a few hours. Depends on your experience, etc..
1-2 hours depending if I let it hang over night. If I am doing it in the dark or the deers age.
I once killed a management doe that was the size of a small horse. She took a long time 3-4 hours. I'm 6'3'; 260lbs and I could not lift her in the truck. That was the biggest body deer I had ever seen.How long does it take to butcher a deer?
You really also need to ask the type of butchering your doing. Are you taking the mussel sections apart and removing the silver skin then wrapping it. Are you butchering it like a swine or beef with a bandsaw cutting your steaks up and grinding the rest. Or are you just going to grind the whole thing and wrapping it up.
I seen a professional Chef from Purdue University do it the German way taking each mussel group apart with a knife and removing silver skin along the way. This took about a hour and a half for half a deer. of course this was part of a class and it might be sped up to an hour for a half (2 hour for a deer). Last year youth early deer season was a hot day and when my young hunter got a deer we hurried to get it checked and butchered. We saved the tenderloin and loin, but ground the rest took less than an hour with three of us working and a commercial grinder. Still had to wrap it after that.
Takes me about an hour total time, that includes, field dressing, skinning, deboning, cutting steaks, cubes, and grinding. You should look on youtube to see how to do it, there is a good couple of videos by someone called williescountrymeats . It does a really good showing you how to do it. I think this will help you out a great deal. Here I found the 1st video for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzYGBNDc_鈥?/a>
Watch the whole series, and you can really learn a lot.
Happy Hunting.
first time ...hours... just holding the manual open to the right page as you follow along will eat up 45 minutes.
a couple of hours if you have done it before. About half a day to clean up your carport if you forgot to bring a load of sawdust home to work over.
I drive mine over to the meat locker in town... $50 bucks it all wrapped the way I asked and flash frozen.
5-10mins for field dress then depending on number of people and equipment to skin the deer and chop it and wrap it and mark all the pieces in clean environment. About 30mins for a good butcher to do it.
Probably around a half an hour dressing it... sectioning probably takes a good half hour also (I like to divvy up the ';good'; parts from the ';tasty'; parts...). It depends on where I am, and how ';hot'; I feel that day.
well it takes about 10 mintes to field dress a deer. And will vary in time in how you butcher the deer, what cuts of meat, deerburger, etc.
Anywhere between 30 minutes to a few hours. Depends on your experience, etc..
What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
Just was wondering how about i goto purchase my first hunting rifle for deer season and whats a good start out model.What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
Most all hunters that I grew up with in Texas started out with a .243 Rem or Win fitted with a 3X9 scope. It's a very flat shooting round with little recoil.
All you need is a record free from felony convictions and a few hundred dollars.What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
the 30-30 is the classic deer hunter starter rifle, it will do the job.
I am unsure of the laws and requirements of purchasing a firearm in Texas, so I can not speak too intelligently on that.
As to what type of rifle to buy鈥?br>
Rifles are very personal things. Some people prefer bolt actions, some lever actions, etc.. I would highly recommend going to a gun shop and trying a few different rifles to see what feels good to you. Personally, I am a Remington 700 fan (I love their Mountain rifle in the 700). However, I have rifles of almost every action (single shot is the only type I do not own yet鈥lans are in the works though). I have enjoyed shooting and hunting with them all. Some are better than others. If I am going to be hunting through heavy brush, I like a short lever action as they handle well and it is easy to get a quick shot off. If I am hunting from a stand or blind, I like a longer rifle.
I have found bolt action rifles to be pretty accurate with whatever type of ammo I shoot through it. Pump actions are pretty forgiving as well, but mine still has some ammo it just doesn鈥檛 shoot well. Semi-autos seem to be very picky and mine only shoots one load consistently well. Lever actions tend to be the most inaccurate (at least for me). If I can put 5 shots within a 3 inch group at 100 meters, I am happy (3 inches is terrible for me鈥ood for others, but I have had years of shooting behind me).
If you have unlimited funds, I like the Sako 75 Finnlight series. They are light and well fitting. One of these will put you back at least a grand ($1400 is the most expensive I鈥檝e seen one for) and I have heard of waits over a year for Sako rifles. If you are on a moderate budget, Browning, Remington, Winchester, and Ruger all make nice rifles. I have shot them all. Personally, I prefer Browning, Remington, Ruger, and Winchester in that order. There is nothing wrong with a Winchester, I just never cared for them. If you are on a strict budget, Savage makes a rifle/scope package that sells at most Wal-Marts for about $400. While I have not shot a modern Savage, I hear excellent things about them.
What cartridge to buy is a tough subject. Which cartridge depends on your shooting experience, your size, future hunting plans, etc鈥?br>
If this were the only rifle you planned on buying, I鈥檇 recommend a 30-06 Springfield. It is by far the most popular cartridge on the planet. There is a huge selection of factory ammo. The cartridge can be used for anything from groundhogs to big brown bear (with some patience and good shot placement). The recoil is a little much if you are a beginning shooter or are a small person. I wouldn鈥檛 use this as a starter rifle, only if you have some shooting experience.
If you are brand new to the world of shooting, I鈥檇 recommend one of the following:
243 Win (95 grain bullet or higher...great ammo availability, very low recoil)
257 Roberts (a great round, but ammo and rifles can be hard to find)
6.5x55 Swede (a great compromise between power and recoil...ammo availability is a little lacking but it can still be found pretty easily)
7mm-08 (This is an all around great round. The recoil is starting to get on the higher side for a beginning rifle, but still very tolerable. Ammo is widely available and the cartridge can be used on anything up to about elk sized game...and even elk of you are careful)
30-30 Win (a tried and true deer round. Rifles are abundant and can be bought used for cheap. Effective range is limited due to the flat point bullets required, but that is now changing with a new type of ammo called Leverelution (I think)...a great beginner round)
7.62x39mm (a round mainly known for use in the AK-47. Sport rifles are a little hard to come by, but they are out there. The round is on the low end for deer, but for shot out to 100 to 150 yards, I'd feel comfortable with it. Just make sure you have a good clean shot to the vitals...I wouldn't trust this round to penetrate much bone)
35 Remington (this is getting to the higher end of the recoil spectrum for a beginners rifle. The round is slow and something I'd recommend for short range only. This isn't something I'd recommend, but if you can find one for cheap, it may be one to consider)
If I were to own one gun, I鈥檇 opt for a 35 Whelen. Short of large African game, it can take out pretty much anything. The cons of the cartridge is that ammo is not readily available and recoil is a little stiff (not terrible, but it can get your attention).
Good luck. Happy hunting
I would start with a 16 guague.
Last question first: To purchase a gun in Texas (even a long gun) you have to be an adult, fill out the questionnaire (a yellow sheet) stating that you are purchasing the gun for yourself, that you are a legal resident of this country and asking for your State of residency, also that you are not a convicted felon or have a conviction for family violence, that you are not a druggie, etc., etc., etc... Remember, NO ABBREVIATIONS WHATSOEVER ON THIS FORM. This is then checked by phone by the vendor and can take as little as ten minutes, or as long as a couple of days. This background check is skipped if you hold a valid Texas concealed carry permit, but the form is STILL filled out. Also, you will be given or told of a 'set of gun safety rules' and you will be asked to read them before using your gun. Then you pay for your gun and take custody of it.
First question, what is a good starter gun for deer hunting? Answer: Nothing smaller than a .243 Winchester and then only with nothing lighter than the 100 grain hunting round. The old .30-30 Winchester is okay, but is not exceptionally accurate nor is it an exceptionally long range rifle--150 yards max. It does have noticeable but not painful recoil. Personally I've found the .44 Remington Magnum Model 92 to be more accurate, about the same felt recoil and about fifty yards shorter maximum range.
Resist the temptation to buy anything in any of the .22 calibers (.222, .223, 22-250) for deer. They'll bring down a deer but not swiftly nor humanely. If larger calibers don't scare you off you should really consider the .25-06 Remington, a truly stellar deer cartridge.
Happy hunting!
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Well thats a question that you will get 1000 different anwsers to.
1st. it depends on your size. Larger caliber rifles for larger people.
2nd. Whats the longest distance you will be shooting.
3rd. How much do you want to spend.
My personal opinion is a Ruger M77 .300 Win. Mag is the best all around gun for the money. I bought my 1st one with a synthetic stock in black with a stainless steel finish on the barrel and reciever. The gun wears well and shoots as far as you would like within reason of course. I put a Leupold 3x9x42 scope and it shoots great. The gun is great from deer to Moose depending on what size load you use.
depending on your body size, etc. one cannot go wrong starting out with light recoiling .243 0r .260. they are super accurate, very flat shooting, with little recoil. i bought my 11 yr. old daughter a .243 and she loves it.
SKS or Ak are cheap, and fine for Texas sized deer. All you need is cash and a drivers license.
I wouldnt use anything smaller than a 30-30 winchester for deer.
it all depends on your budget, if you don't want to drop alot of money on a rifle and your not worried about looks then i would suggest a British 303, or maybe a 7.62 X 54r. both of these rifles can be bought for less than 100 bucks and can be tossed around and dropped without you worrying about hurting them.
if your gonna spend a little money then i would suggest something in a .270 caliber for starting out. it has a mild recoil and wont bruise your shoulder after a day on the range. some people like the .243 but in my opinion its a bit small for whitetail. a 30-06 or bigger has quite a recoil and without alot of experience with larger bore rifles you may end up flinching when you pull the trigger resulting in a missed shot. again i suggest a .270, large selection of ammo, light recoil with still enough power to consistently drop deer, and as far as brand of rifle that all depends on you. go to the gun store and hold different brands of rifles till you find the one that is inside your budget and feels the best in you shoulder.
i also suggest a Simmons scope to top of your rifle, their new Master Series design is awesome and very affordable considering the quality. they also come with a lifetime warranty.
good luck and have fun, i hope you get a big one.
The aforementioned calibers are fine. To make the purchase you need to be at least 18 years of age, not be on probation or under indictment, and not have any felony convictions. A misdemeanor conviction of domestic violence will also disqualify you. So, if you are qualified to make the purchase then go to a gun store, select the rifle that you want to purchase, and fill out the paperwork which takes about 2 minutes. The clerk will call NICS to initiate a background check and with the smallest bit of luck you will most likely walk out of the store with your shiny new weapon in about 5 to 10 minutes. Oh, I'm a .308 Winchester kind of guy. It will kill almost anything on this continent without kicking the bejesus out of you which means that you'll practice a great deal more with it. The ammo is reasonably priced as well.
I would recommend something like a .243 caliber. It has a relatively light recoil yet has sufficient power to cleanly kill a white tail deer. If you are a Texas resident with no criminal history, all you have to do is to go to a store that sells the rifle that you want and purchase it. Because it is a long gun, there is no waiting period. You buy it and take it home with you. While you are there, talk to a salesman and ask what specific ammo you should buy for it. For each caliber there are many different brands and loadings. You need to get the correct cartridge for the purpose for which you will be using your rifle. Once you have the rifle, you will need a scope for it. Here is a bit of advice that most people will want to argue with until they have been hunting long enough to understand the importance of it. That is that you should plan on spending as much on a scope as you do on the rifle. Tough to swallow? Look at it this way, you will spend money on a license, ammo, gun, a place to hunt, the expense of getting to your lease, camping gear, food, and the list goes on and on. Do you really want spend all of that money just to get to set in that deer blind and then risk missing a shot because of a lesser quality scope? Your rifle is only going to be as accurate as your scope. Don't blow your hunting trip because you were trying to save a few dollars on the scope. Good scopes are expensive but you get what you pay for. A good one will set you back at least $500. Also, I recomment a fixed power scope over a variable power one. Oh, sure, most people will spend the money to get a 3X to 9X scope and then find that they set it on somewhere between 4X and 6X and leave it there. Why pay for something that you won't get that much use from. I think that a fixed power scope of 6X will be a great scope and you will have a scope with a much clearer image than one of a variable power.
bushes are telling you.
i'm a remington fan, since they have a factory close to where i grew up. you should be able to find a Remington Model 700 about anywhere that sells rifles.
Buy a .243, .270., .308 or a 30-06 caliber. Any of those four calibers are fine for deer in TX and should be very easy to find ammo. I have a Remington Model 7 (short version of model 700) in .308. Mild recoil and can find ammo about anywhere.
Since it's a rifle and not a handgun, you should have to do much to buy it other than pay for it.
Enjoy and good hunting.
You need to be 18+ and have a clean record. You may also have to take a hunter safety course (I recommend you do since this is you first rifle). First you need to look at rifle types
Lever guns. These are great for thicker cover. Calibers: 30-30, 45/70 (It can kick), .444 Marlin, .35 Remington are the classics. All will do the job, but the 30-30 gets the nod by me for deer. Makers: Marlin or Winchester (they quite making the M94, but you should still be able to find one). The Marlin 336 is about as good as you can hope for.
Bolt- action and single shots. Here anything from .243-the .300 whizzbangers will work. Optimum ones include the 257 Roberts, 25-06, .270, 7mm-08, .308, 30-06 and the various short mags and ultra mags in those calibers. these guns hit far out there, so plan to spend as much or more on the scope as you do on the rifle.
Savage, Remington, Winchester, ruger, New England, Browning, all make various actions and calibers.
Semi-Auto's and Pumps. Here you are looking at Remington, Browning, and Benelli. These can generally be had in the same calibers for the autos.
My own preferance is 30-06 right now nad .308 since I own both. I am hoping to get a 25-06 and a .270 WSM to round out my collection. If are planning on hunting animals larger than deer, then the 270-7mm-.30 class rounds are going to be more useful. If you are hoping to varmint hunt the .243 and .25 calibers are going to do you better. Good luck and stay safe out there!
Most all hunters that I grew up with in Texas started out with a .243 Rem or Win fitted with a 3X9 scope. It's a very flat shooting round with little recoil.
All you need is a record free from felony convictions and a few hundred dollars.What is a good starting out rifle for deer season and what do i have to do to purchase one in Tx?
the 30-30 is the classic deer hunter starter rifle, it will do the job.
I am unsure of the laws and requirements of purchasing a firearm in Texas, so I can not speak too intelligently on that.
As to what type of rifle to buy鈥?br>
Rifles are very personal things. Some people prefer bolt actions, some lever actions, etc.. I would highly recommend going to a gun shop and trying a few different rifles to see what feels good to you. Personally, I am a Remington 700 fan (I love their Mountain rifle in the 700). However, I have rifles of almost every action (single shot is the only type I do not own yet鈥lans are in the works though). I have enjoyed shooting and hunting with them all. Some are better than others. If I am going to be hunting through heavy brush, I like a short lever action as they handle well and it is easy to get a quick shot off. If I am hunting from a stand or blind, I like a longer rifle.
I have found bolt action rifles to be pretty accurate with whatever type of ammo I shoot through it. Pump actions are pretty forgiving as well, but mine still has some ammo it just doesn鈥檛 shoot well. Semi-autos seem to be very picky and mine only shoots one load consistently well. Lever actions tend to be the most inaccurate (at least for me). If I can put 5 shots within a 3 inch group at 100 meters, I am happy (3 inches is terrible for me鈥ood for others, but I have had years of shooting behind me).
If you have unlimited funds, I like the Sako 75 Finnlight series. They are light and well fitting. One of these will put you back at least a grand ($1400 is the most expensive I鈥檝e seen one for) and I have heard of waits over a year for Sako rifles. If you are on a moderate budget, Browning, Remington, Winchester, and Ruger all make nice rifles. I have shot them all. Personally, I prefer Browning, Remington, Ruger, and Winchester in that order. There is nothing wrong with a Winchester, I just never cared for them. If you are on a strict budget, Savage makes a rifle/scope package that sells at most Wal-Marts for about $400. While I have not shot a modern Savage, I hear excellent things about them.
What cartridge to buy is a tough subject. Which cartridge depends on your shooting experience, your size, future hunting plans, etc鈥?br>
If this were the only rifle you planned on buying, I鈥檇 recommend a 30-06 Springfield. It is by far the most popular cartridge on the planet. There is a huge selection of factory ammo. The cartridge can be used for anything from groundhogs to big brown bear (with some patience and good shot placement). The recoil is a little much if you are a beginning shooter or are a small person. I wouldn鈥檛 use this as a starter rifle, only if you have some shooting experience.
If you are brand new to the world of shooting, I鈥檇 recommend one of the following:
243 Win (95 grain bullet or higher...great ammo availability, very low recoil)
257 Roberts (a great round, but ammo and rifles can be hard to find)
6.5x55 Swede (a great compromise between power and recoil...ammo availability is a little lacking but it can still be found pretty easily)
7mm-08 (This is an all around great round. The recoil is starting to get on the higher side for a beginning rifle, but still very tolerable. Ammo is widely available and the cartridge can be used on anything up to about elk sized game...and even elk of you are careful)
30-30 Win (a tried and true deer round. Rifles are abundant and can be bought used for cheap. Effective range is limited due to the flat point bullets required, but that is now changing with a new type of ammo called Leverelution (I think)...a great beginner round)
7.62x39mm (a round mainly known for use in the AK-47. Sport rifles are a little hard to come by, but they are out there. The round is on the low end for deer, but for shot out to 100 to 150 yards, I'd feel comfortable with it. Just make sure you have a good clean shot to the vitals...I wouldn't trust this round to penetrate much bone)
35 Remington (this is getting to the higher end of the recoil spectrum for a beginners rifle. The round is slow and something I'd recommend for short range only. This isn't something I'd recommend, but if you can find one for cheap, it may be one to consider)
If I were to own one gun, I鈥檇 opt for a 35 Whelen. Short of large African game, it can take out pretty much anything. The cons of the cartridge is that ammo is not readily available and recoil is a little stiff (not terrible, but it can get your attention).
Good luck. Happy hunting
I would start with a 16 guague.
Last question first: To purchase a gun in Texas (even a long gun) you have to be an adult, fill out the questionnaire (a yellow sheet) stating that you are purchasing the gun for yourself, that you are a legal resident of this country and asking for your State of residency, also that you are not a convicted felon or have a conviction for family violence, that you are not a druggie, etc., etc., etc... Remember, NO ABBREVIATIONS WHATSOEVER ON THIS FORM. This is then checked by phone by the vendor and can take as little as ten minutes, or as long as a couple of days. This background check is skipped if you hold a valid Texas concealed carry permit, but the form is STILL filled out. Also, you will be given or told of a 'set of gun safety rules' and you will be asked to read them before using your gun. Then you pay for your gun and take custody of it.
First question, what is a good starter gun for deer hunting? Answer: Nothing smaller than a .243 Winchester and then only with nothing lighter than the 100 grain hunting round. The old .30-30 Winchester is okay, but is not exceptionally accurate nor is it an exceptionally long range rifle--150 yards max. It does have noticeable but not painful recoil. Personally I've found the .44 Remington Magnum Model 92 to be more accurate, about the same felt recoil and about fifty yards shorter maximum range.
Resist the temptation to buy anything in any of the .22 calibers (.222, .223, 22-250) for deer. They'll bring down a deer but not swiftly nor humanely. If larger calibers don't scare you off you should really consider the .25-06 Remington, a truly stellar deer cartridge.
Happy hunting!
H
Well thats a question that you will get 1000 different anwsers to.
1st. it depends on your size. Larger caliber rifles for larger people.
2nd. Whats the longest distance you will be shooting.
3rd. How much do you want to spend.
My personal opinion is a Ruger M77 .300 Win. Mag is the best all around gun for the money. I bought my 1st one with a synthetic stock in black with a stainless steel finish on the barrel and reciever. The gun wears well and shoots as far as you would like within reason of course. I put a Leupold 3x9x42 scope and it shoots great. The gun is great from deer to Moose depending on what size load you use.
depending on your body size, etc. one cannot go wrong starting out with light recoiling .243 0r .260. they are super accurate, very flat shooting, with little recoil. i bought my 11 yr. old daughter a .243 and she loves it.
SKS or Ak are cheap, and fine for Texas sized deer. All you need is cash and a drivers license.
I wouldnt use anything smaller than a 30-30 winchester for deer.
it all depends on your budget, if you don't want to drop alot of money on a rifle and your not worried about looks then i would suggest a British 303, or maybe a 7.62 X 54r. both of these rifles can be bought for less than 100 bucks and can be tossed around and dropped without you worrying about hurting them.
if your gonna spend a little money then i would suggest something in a .270 caliber for starting out. it has a mild recoil and wont bruise your shoulder after a day on the range. some people like the .243 but in my opinion its a bit small for whitetail. a 30-06 or bigger has quite a recoil and without alot of experience with larger bore rifles you may end up flinching when you pull the trigger resulting in a missed shot. again i suggest a .270, large selection of ammo, light recoil with still enough power to consistently drop deer, and as far as brand of rifle that all depends on you. go to the gun store and hold different brands of rifles till you find the one that is inside your budget and feels the best in you shoulder.
i also suggest a Simmons scope to top of your rifle, their new Master Series design is awesome and very affordable considering the quality. they also come with a lifetime warranty.
good luck and have fun, i hope you get a big one.
The aforementioned calibers are fine. To make the purchase you need to be at least 18 years of age, not be on probation or under indictment, and not have any felony convictions. A misdemeanor conviction of domestic violence will also disqualify you. So, if you are qualified to make the purchase then go to a gun store, select the rifle that you want to purchase, and fill out the paperwork which takes about 2 minutes. The clerk will call NICS to initiate a background check and with the smallest bit of luck you will most likely walk out of the store with your shiny new weapon in about 5 to 10 minutes. Oh, I'm a .308 Winchester kind of guy. It will kill almost anything on this continent without kicking the bejesus out of you which means that you'll practice a great deal more with it. The ammo is reasonably priced as well.
I would recommend something like a .243 caliber. It has a relatively light recoil yet has sufficient power to cleanly kill a white tail deer. If you are a Texas resident with no criminal history, all you have to do is to go to a store that sells the rifle that you want and purchase it. Because it is a long gun, there is no waiting period. You buy it and take it home with you. While you are there, talk to a salesman and ask what specific ammo you should buy for it. For each caliber there are many different brands and loadings. You need to get the correct cartridge for the purpose for which you will be using your rifle. Once you have the rifle, you will need a scope for it. Here is a bit of advice that most people will want to argue with until they have been hunting long enough to understand the importance of it. That is that you should plan on spending as much on a scope as you do on the rifle. Tough to swallow? Look at it this way, you will spend money on a license, ammo, gun, a place to hunt, the expense of getting to your lease, camping gear, food, and the list goes on and on. Do you really want spend all of that money just to get to set in that deer blind and then risk missing a shot because of a lesser quality scope? Your rifle is only going to be as accurate as your scope. Don't blow your hunting trip because you were trying to save a few dollars on the scope. Good scopes are expensive but you get what you pay for. A good one will set you back at least $500. Also, I recomment a fixed power scope over a variable power one. Oh, sure, most people will spend the money to get a 3X to 9X scope and then find that they set it on somewhere between 4X and 6X and leave it there. Why pay for something that you won't get that much use from. I think that a fixed power scope of 6X will be a great scope and you will have a scope with a much clearer image than one of a variable power.
bushes are telling you.
i'm a remington fan, since they have a factory close to where i grew up. you should be able to find a Remington Model 700 about anywhere that sells rifles.
Buy a .243, .270., .308 or a 30-06 caliber. Any of those four calibers are fine for deer in TX and should be very easy to find ammo. I have a Remington Model 7 (short version of model 700) in .308. Mild recoil and can find ammo about anywhere.
Since it's a rifle and not a handgun, you should have to do much to buy it other than pay for it.
Enjoy and good hunting.
You need to be 18+ and have a clean record. You may also have to take a hunter safety course (I recommend you do since this is you first rifle). First you need to look at rifle types
Lever guns. These are great for thicker cover. Calibers: 30-30, 45/70 (It can kick), .444 Marlin, .35 Remington are the classics. All will do the job, but the 30-30 gets the nod by me for deer. Makers: Marlin or Winchester (they quite making the M94, but you should still be able to find one). The Marlin 336 is about as good as you can hope for.
Bolt- action and single shots. Here anything from .243-the .300 whizzbangers will work. Optimum ones include the 257 Roberts, 25-06, .270, 7mm-08, .308, 30-06 and the various short mags and ultra mags in those calibers. these guns hit far out there, so plan to spend as much or more on the scope as you do on the rifle.
Savage, Remington, Winchester, ruger, New England, Browning, all make various actions and calibers.
Semi-Auto's and Pumps. Here you are looking at Remington, Browning, and Benelli. These can generally be had in the same calibers for the autos.
My own preferance is 30-06 right now nad .308 since I own both. I am hoping to get a 25-06 and a .270 WSM to round out my collection. If are planning on hunting animals larger than deer, then the 270-7mm-.30 class rounds are going to be more useful. If you are hoping to varmint hunt the .243 and .25 calibers are going to do you better. Good luck and stay safe out there!
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